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1. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

I want to be the first to bring this news here - pope is in his final hours.

2. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

I sincerely hope that this is NOT another joke

3. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 11y

There is a difference between being in your final hours and being dead. There are no reports of his death in any of the media that I've seen.

4. Posted by lil j (Travel Guru 1303 posts) 11y

There is indeed a difference, well done to him, he seemed very content and its so good that he's come this far. i dont know much about the pope but he's another being at the end of the day! i think it's great that he's been able to still do many things as he's got more fragile.

5. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

It will be a very sad day indeed when the Pope does die

6. Posted by s0f (Full Member 163 posts) 11y

He hasn't died yet... I've been watching CNN International most of today waiting for the sad sad news. I'm a catholic but I haven't been to church in at least a decade and I think I might go to tomorrow morning's Sunday Mass.

7. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Apr 2, 5:37 AM (ET)

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope John Paul II showed the first signs of losing consciousness at dawn on Saturday, the Vatican said, as priests around the world prepared the Roman Catholic faithful for his passing.

The pope's health rapidly deteriorated after he suffered a urinary tract infection. The Vatican, which earlier described his heart and kidneys as failing, said his condition remained "very grave."

"Since dawn this morning there have been first signs that consciousness is being affected," papal spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said.

But John Paul, 84, was not in a coma and opened his eyes when spoken to, Navarro-Valls told reporters. He said the pope was still speaking as of late Friday but did not take part when Mass was celebrated in his presence Saturday morning

"Sometimes it seems as if he were resting with his eyes closed, but when you speak to him, he opens his eyes," Navarro-Valls said.

He said aides had told the pope that thousands of young people were in St. Peter's Square on Friday evening. Navarro-Valls said the pope appeared to be referring to them when he seemed to say: "'I have looked for you. Now you have come to me. And I thank you.'"

John Paul's overall condition, which began declining Thursday, remained unchanged, the Vatican said.

"The general cardio-respiratory and metabolic conditions are substantially unvaried and therefore very grave," Navarro-Valls said.

Tourists and pilgrims streamed anew into St. Peter's Square on Saturday, and around the world, priests prepared Roman Catholics for the pope's death. Many expressed hope that his final hours would be peaceful

"Now he prepares to meet the Lord," Cardinal Francis George said at a Mass in Chicago on Friday. "As the portals of death open for him, as they will for each of us ... we must accompany him with our own prayers."

A workman in the square, declining to give his name, told The Associated Press that crews were taking down the canopy on the steps of St. Peter's Basilica, which had covered an altar during Easter Sunday Mass. They said they had orders to clear the space for when the pope's coffin eventually is carried into the square.

Police in a motorized cart moved around the square, telling some faithful who were kneeling on the cobblestones to get up. Police said they were given orders that no one be allowed to sit or pray on the pavement in the square.

In a sign of the pope's decline, several cardinals from the United States and Latin America said they were heading to Rome. After the official mourning period following the death of a pope, cardinals hold a secret vote in the Sistine Chapel to choose a successor.

A dozen nuns said the rosary Saturday while standing at the foot of the obelisk in St. Peter's and looking at the pope's windows. They had just attended a morning Mass at the basilica.

Sister Arlete said she felt both sadness and happiness: "Sadness because he's dying, but happiness that his suffering will end, because he's truly suffering. He's a spiritual father who helps us grow in life with so much love and peace."

The Il Secolo XIX newspaper of Genoa reported that the pope, with the help of his private secretary Archbishop Stanislaw Dziwisz, wrote a note to his aides urging them not to weep for him.

"I am happy, and you should be as well," the note reportedly said. "Let us pray together with joy."

8. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

(I think he died yesterday, but they have to get their 'stuff' together and they didn't want to announce to the world that he died on April Fools Day....dollars to doughnuts they announce it today.....)

Another odd fact...
Ancient cultures, including those as varied as the Romans and the Hindus, celebrated New Year's Day on April 1. It closely follows the vernal equinox (March 20th or March 21st.) In medieval times, much of Europe celebrated March 25, the Feast of Annunciation, as the beginning of the new year.

In 1582, Pope Gregory XIII ordered a new calendar (the Gregorian Calendar) to replace the old Julian Calendar. The new calendar called for New Year's Day to be celebrated Jan. 1. Many countries, however, resisted the change. In fact, some European countries held out for centuries (Scotland until 1660; Germany, Denmark, and Norway until 1700; and England until 1752).

So I guess we should be thanking popedom for April Fools;)

9. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Roman Catholics around the world pray as the Vatican indicates the Pope is starting to lose consciousness.

2nd April 2005

10. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

He really IS gone now. :(

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