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RTW advice please - good value???

Travel Forums Round the World Travel RTW advice please - good value???

1. Posted by DukeofBarry (Budding Member 5 posts) 2y

Hi everyone,

Currently planning a first RTW with my fiancée. Really enjoying the planning stages but we're in need of an impartial, experienced opinion!

I've managed to whittle down the price to £3600 for the below itinerary with OneWorld's online planner.

LHR (prem economy) > RIO > SCL > BUE > LIM > BOG > (alt transport) CUN > MIA > MBJ > MIA > SAN > (alt transport) LAX (prem economy) > NRT > SYD (prem economy) > LHR

Does this sound like good value? Your advice would be hugely appreciated.

Thanks,

Luke

2. Posted by DukeofBarry (Budding Member 5 posts) 2y

Anyone got any thoughts??

Thanks,

Luke

3. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2420 posts) 2y

Too late now, but you might have received a response if you has posted the 3 separate legs in full. How many people know instantly which airport SAN or MBJ is?

1.) Heathrow > Rio de Janeiro > Santiago > Buenos Aires > Lima > Bogota.
2.) Cancun > Miami > Jamaica > Miami > San Diago.
3.) Los Angeles > Tokyo > Sydney > Heathrow.

The price doesn't sound bad to me, but that second leg sucks. I would have dropped Miami/Jamaica and done Cancun/Havana instead.

Have fun.

Cheers,
Terry

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 2y

That sounds rather expensive to me, though that might partially be due to the premium economy legs. How much is this same itinerary in pure economy?

The main reason it'll be expensive is that you're crossing the equator four times, adding many miles. And that while One World is the only alliance which does the South America - Oceania leg directly. If this routing isn't necessary for other reasons (I can imagine that certain parts of the world are best to visit at certain times of the year, and that you're thus purposefully doing these destinations in this order?), then consider reorganizing as something like LHR-MIA-CUN-MBJ-MIA-SAN-LAX-BOG-LIM-RIO-BUE-SCL-SYD-NRT-LHR (which, according to the great circle mapper, is 2,000 miles less than LHR-RIO-SCL-BUE-LIM-BOG-CUN-MIA-MBJ-MIA-SAN-LAX-NRT-SYD-LHR). Now, if you remove SAN/LAX, CUN/MBJ or RIO/BUE from the routing and do them separately (assuming cheap separate tickets for them exist?), you can easily get under 34,000 miles (and possibly even under the 29,000), which - iirc - are the thresholds for a miles ticket under which the price drops quite a bit. (Note that the airlines count slightly more miles per leg than the great circle mapper does.)

The SCL-SYD leg can be done via AKL (New Zealand is totally worth a couple of weeks!), or even better, via Easter Island (IPC), Tahiti (PPT) and Auckland (AKL), effectively for free. (If you're doing a continent-based ticket, you'll need to buy extra stops for South America, but probably doable; or you could do LIM-SCL overland, and buy LIM-RIO-BUE-SCL on a separate ticket, or see about one of those LAN passes. (That might even be combinable with the RTW ticket, but there you head into territory where you really need an experienced travel agent.))

[ Edit: Edited on 09-Jul-2014, at 09:53 by Sander ]

5. Posted by DukeofBarry (Budding Member 5 posts) 2y

Ahh I clearly put too much faith in the community's airport code knowledge!!

Thanks for your help.

We have to change somewhere, as I don't think there are directs from Cancun to Havana. Plus, i have family in Miami and US/Havana flights aren't possible.

Luke

6. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4808 posts) 2y

FWIW, SAN and MBJ were the only codes I had to look up. :)

7. Posted by DukeofBarry (Budding Member 5 posts) 2y

Hi Sander,

Thanks very much for the detailed response!

From memory it was bizarrely more expensive without the premium economy. Also I think the OneWorld RTW fares are calculated by segments instead of actual miles.

I'll do a bit of investigating.

Thanks again,

Luke

8. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2420 posts) 2y

1.) "... We have to change somewhere, as I don't think there are directs from Cancun to Havana..."

Cubana flies daily between Cancun and Havana but that's a moot point if you have to go to Miami anyway.

2.) "... US/Havana flights aren't possible..."

Some interesting trivia... there's actually there's more daily flights departing from Miami to Cuba than from any other departure point in the world, but they're only available to US citizens travelling under OFAC licence.

Have fun.

Cheers,
Terry

9. Posted by DukeofBarry (Budding Member 5 posts) 2y

That's great to know about Cubana, thanks Tez.

Interesting, I do love general knowledge. It's a shame that it's so restricted, but (unfortunately?) I'm British anyway.

We'd really like to do both Cuba & Jamaica, but don't think it's viable either economically or time-wise. Jamaica looks like the easier option at the moment.

I'll hopefully have some time to investigate again this weekend.

10. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2420 posts) 2y

So long as you keep your wits about you Jamaica is a lovely holiday destination, but in my opinion Cuba blows it out of the water in terms of culture/music/etc. It's one of the most complicated/crazy countries in the western hemisphere - but it's changing fast.

Have a great trip.

Cheers,
Terry