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1. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

"I'm not young enough to know everything" is how Oscar Wilde put it.

The "young" are supposed to be firey and passionate, while the "mature" are purported to take things with a grain of salt and have learned to let things go.

So here's my question: is trading in extreme passion for the ability to just let things go a good thing? Or does it mean we just don't want to fight anymore?

2. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

I think that older people know better than to "fight". They are wiser than that. They do not need to feel the passion that the young crave. They have experienced it and have moved to another plane. (perhaps?)

I believe that the passion and fire of the young is as equally important as the sagacity and temperance of the aged. Both are necessary for balance in life.

Am I making sense?

3. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Yes, perfectly. I guess I'm wondering because a friend of mine insists I'm too passionate about certain things I believe in (exciting stuff like proper grammer and punctuation and good advertising), when I should just realize that nobody really sees the difference and I should save myself the trouble.

But it feels, to me, like giving up. Although fighting means having that pit of passion boiling away constantly in your belly.

4. Posted by Rraven (Travel Guru 5924 posts) 11y

prefect sense and I agree ! with age you know you don't have to fight all the time for things to happen or to be heard

5. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

There's nothing wrong what being passionate about things that are important to you Tway. I'm a fairly feisty creature about certain things as well. I just have to remind myself that others might not share that particular zeal. I wont ever apologise for what I love or believe in, but I will try not to ram it down someone else's throat.

It's a fine line. You can be passionate towards some people, and they are accepting of it and enjoy your reaction. Others react differently and just want you to shut up or whatever.

I wouldn't like to think I had to give in or give up on something, rather that I was at all times graceful in the face of passion.

6. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

I think a passionateless life would be a terrible thing.
My grandfather will be 91 this August and he just drove his motorhome (castle!) to New Mexico with a 33 yr.old. (What is it with the men in my family and younger women?!) He is still filled with piss and vinegar! May we all be so fortunate!!

7. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

LOL!!! I havent heard that expression in aaages Joz. That one of my Dad's.

8. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Quoting samsara2

I think that older people know better than to "fight". They are wiser than that. They do not need to feel the passion that the young crave. They have experienced it and have moved to another plane. (perhaps?)

I believe that the passion and fire of the young is as equally important as the sagacity and temperance of the aged. Both are necessary for balance in life.

Am I making sense?

Being as I am an "older" person... It is not so much "knowing better than to fight", but knowing which battles are worth the fight. If one is passionate when they are young, the passion is usually still there later in life - it may have turned a new direction, or two. Rather than "causes' being the motivation, things like family take precidence. Yes, there are those who expend their energies early on and then are willing to sit back and let the "young" take over. But, once passionate, rarely does it fall to the wayside completely. With age comes wisdom and a knowing of when to "fight" and when not. (Ie: picking your battles wisely.)

9. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

I wouldnt have called you old Isa!:)

I was talking about real old fogies like my grandparents and great-grandparents.

I should have phrased myself better. You said what I meant - they know the fights worth picking. Exactly true.

10. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Young and old are so relaitive. I've met old "young" people and young "old" people - and the latter have stayed young precisely because they've never let themselves become jaded.

I think the 30s are a funny age that way - some people see us starting to get older whereas, as is my case, I see life getting better and better. Sincerely, I had an aquantaince (2 days younger than me) send us 30-somethigns an e-mail this week about how the old are wiser than the young. And I thought "Who's she calling old???"