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11. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 1y

Good idea Steve (and Sander with the follow- up suggestions). There's no reason why any users other than moderators need to see messages awaiting moderation unless they don't fall into the categories Sander mentioned.

12. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 1y

There's no big deal hiding the spam flagged threads. That is, unless the spam flag is a reply to an existing thread, but maybe we don't even need to show the flag there because we can use the spam moderating page to handle this anyway.

As for moderators banning members, the question here is defining the right check levels. Would requiring two moderators in agreement be enough? Or should that be 3?

As it stands now, when a member is flagged, they really shouldn't be able to do anything practical on the site anymore. So I know they are still there, which can be annoying if they hang around a bit, but they are really already pretty much inactivated. Flagging them is therefore definitely achieving something, as it immediately stops them from contributing any more spam.

But you know - I'm not entirely opposed to moderators being able to ban some of the worst offenders if there is strong consensus.

13. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 1y

I personally don't think moderators being able to ban members is necessary. The amount of spam reduction resulting from a ban - as opposed to just flagging - seems to me to be pretty small.

I'm not opposed to it either, though, and it'd be something I'd be happy to help with it, assuming it would actually achieve a meaningful reduction on the amount of time you're spending on it (which you could then spend more usefully doing other things).

I mostly worry that the cycles spent on getting the interface and thresholds just right would be costly, and that the slowness resulting from moderator-consensus means that effective action isn't sped up at all over what we have now, leading to this being an absolutely tiny improvement.

This last point is why I think Steve's suggestion is such a useful one; it makes flagging much more impactful, immediately improving the forum for everyone else, without doing irreparable damage which needs multiple confirmations. (It's just kinda sucky for us moderators, since we don't get to see that improvement ourselves - but I think that as long as we remind ourselves that that's part of our job, and it's better for the general public, I think we can live with that, :) particularly since seeing spam across other forums helps us do our jobs.)

[ Edit: Edited on 14-Jul-2015, at 06:00 by Sander ]

14. Posted by hasbeen (Respected Member 602 posts) 1y

I see today that 12 of the first 14 entries on the forum have SPAM. It looks terrible & a very bad introduction to your otherwise excellent site

Steve

15. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 1y

FWIW, I marked those 12 threads as spam about 15 minutes before you posted this, and about an hour after that they were all cleaned up by the responsible moderator for that forum. So that was a pretty good turnaround. (But yes, your suggestion to hide them from general view as soon as they've been marked would still be a welcome improvement from most people's point of view.)

16. Posted by hasbeen (Respected Member 602 posts) 1y

Quoting Sander

FWIW, I marked those 12 threads as spam about 15 minutes before you posted this, and about an hour after that they were all cleaned up by the responsible moderator for that forum. So that was a pretty good turnaround. (But yes, your suggestion to hide them from general view as soon as they've been marked would still be a welcome improvement from most people's point of view.)

Sander - I thought you were a moderator. How come you flag it & someone else has to fix it?

17. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 1y

Quoting hasbeen

Sander - I thought you were a moderator. How come you flag it & someone else has to fix it?

Sander isn't a moderator for that particular forum (general talk) so although he can flag posts, he would not be able to delete them. Each moderator only has the rights to edit and delete on certain forums.

[ Edit: Edited on 24-Aug-2015, at 12:45 by bex76 ]

18. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4809 posts) 1y

Indeed.

You can see who moderates which forums on the Member & Forum Stats page.

19. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5595 posts) 1y

There are dozens of posts on the first forum page right now, 6-7 hours old.

I thought it was not possible to have so many posts as a newcomer?

And I also thought the idea of not seeing flagged posts anymore was a good one to be implemented in the (near?) future.

thanks.

20. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 1y

I've just logged on to see 29 posts flagged for me to look at - this must be a record! 26-27 of them were from the same spammer in China; as Mike said, I thought they shouldn't be able to post so many new posts.