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1. Posted by ricksinha (Budding Member 3 posts) 1y

Dear Friends

After lots of permutations and combinations, the following is my itinerary. I will need your valuable inputs in the same

1.10.2015 Sofia
2.10.2015 Sofia Free Day
3.10.2015 Sofia - Ljubljana Train [Please provide me details of the same]
4.10.2015 Ljubljana Free Day
5.10.2015 Ljubjana - Bled Bus [Please provide me details of the same]
6.10.2015 Bled Free Day
7.10.2015 Bled - Ljubljana - Salzburg Bus/ Train [Please provide me details of the same]
8.10.2015 Salzburg Free Day
9.10.2015 Salzburg Free Day
10.10.2015 Salzburg - Innsbruck Morning Train [OEBB]
11.10.2015 Innsbruck Free Day

OR

8.10.2015 Salzburg Free Day
9.10.2015 Salzburg - Innsbruck Morning Train [OEBB]
10.10.2015 Innsbruck Free Day
11.10.2015 Innsbruck Free Day
12.10.2015 Innsbruck - Vienna Train [OEBB]
13.10.2015 Vienna F Free Day

14.10.2015 Vienna - Bratisalva Bus [Please provide me details of the same]
15.10.2015 Bratisalva - Poprad- Tatry Lominica Train
16.10.2015 Poprad- Tatry Lominica Free Day
17.10.2015 Poprad- Bratislava - Vienna/ Poprad - Bratislava - Budapest Train/ Bus [Please provide me details of the same]

OR

17.10.2015 Vienna - Budapest Train [Please provide me details of the same]
18.10.2015 Budapest Free Day
19.10.2015 Budapest Free Day
20.10.2015 Budapest -Prague Flight/ Train [Please provide me details of the same]
21.10.2015 Prague Free Day
22.10.2015 Prague Free Day
23.10.2015 Prague - Amsterdam Flight/ Train [Please provide me details of the same]
24.10.2015 Amsterdam Free Day
25.10.2015 Amsterdam Free Day

Please feel free to give your suggestions. I just have these many days with me.

Regards
Rick

2. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 1y

Hi Rick

I think 1 day is enough in Salzburg; it's a pretty city but there isn't a lot to do there (unless you have a particular interest in the Sound of music or Mozart). I was a little underwhelmed with it to be honest. If you do decide to have a couple of days there, I'd recommend going across the border into Germany and doing a tour of the Salt Mines, which is fascinating.

How about spending some more time in Sofia and taking day trips to Plovdiv and Rila Monastery?

3. Posted by Andyf (Travel Guru 640 posts) 1y

In Sofia they have free walking tours who work for tips. Google Sofia green walking tour, as well as a daily city tour they do a hiking and a cycle tour. We did the city tour one day and the hiking tour the next - which involved a cheap taxi out to the outskirts of the city then a forest waterfall walk. Recommended.

I think you'll find these type of free walking tours in cities across eastern Europe so maybe Budapest, Prague, bratislava on your routes. Great way to get an insight into a place from a local - usually run by students and often ending with some people finding a bar with the guide.

4. Posted by ricksinha (Budding Member 3 posts) 1y

Quoting bex76

Hi Rick

I think 1 day is enough in Salzburg; it's a pretty city but there isn't a lot to do there (unless you have a particular interest in the Sound of music or Mozart). I was a little underwhelmed with it to be honest. If you do decide to have a couple of days there, I'd recommend going across the border into Germany and doing a tour of the Salt Mines, which is fascinating.

How about spending some more time in Sofia and taking day trips to Plovdiv and Rila Monastery?

Hi buddy. How about konigsee lake from Salzburg?

5. Posted by berner256 (Travel Guru 499 posts) 1y

I like your third itinerary the best. But instead of flying first into Vienna, I suggest going to Budapest, spending three days there, then taking the train to Vienna, spend a couple of days there, then take the train to Prague, spend three days there; and then either fly or take a train to Amsterdam, returning home from there. Fall is lovely in those cities; and there is a lot to see and do.

If you're determined to go to Slovenia and the Tatras, go online to check when the fall colors are at or near their peak. This will vary from year to year depending on weather conditions, etc. But you'll get an idea. Because of your limited time, your Slovenia itinerary appears to be a bit too rushed. I've been on the bus between Bled and Llubljana and I can report that the trip took longer than anticipated because of traffic. And, if you're traveling by bus over the Tatras during the fall, you also can expect traffic as others will want to see the fall colors, too.

I understand that many Forum participants don't like Vienna. They pan it. But I've always enjoyed my stay there. For a day trip, take OBB's package of a boat trip on the Danube to Melk, visiting the monastery there with its spectacular library, then returning to Vienna by train. Also, OBB offers cheap "sparschiene" fares to nearby countries, which will save you money. Go online to check.

Over the years, I've found that it always pays to "go see for yourself," particularly if the guide books and others pan a place. Some, for example, don't like Llubljana, recommending a stay in Bled instead. I liked -- and enjoyed -- both, for different reasons. I'm now in Kiev, a place that in the past has been panned by others, so I passed on visiting it several years ago. I'm enjoying my stay here.

Use the travellerspoint mapping tool to help determine your itinerary. It will help put it into perspective.

P.S. I agree with bex76. If you're determined to go to Salzburg, shorten the number of days spent there. The same goes for Innsbruck.

P.P.S. There is a lot to see in this world; and it's impossible to include everything you want on any particular trip (time and money are just two constraints). So you'll have to make adjustments. For me, if I like a place, I return, sometimes again and again. Traveling isn't just going from place to place to see the sights. It's also experiencing the culture and so many other things. You'll get a taste; and if you're like me, you'll eventually want more.

[ Edit: Edited on 28-Jun-2015, at 23:11 by berner256 ]

6. Posted by SJesN (Inactive 6 posts) 1y

I like the last itinerary the best. There is much to do and see in Budapest, Prague and Amsterdam. For the trains from Budapest to Prague, you can check the timings and purchase the ticket at the ticket counter at Budapest Keleti train station. For the train from prague to amsterdam, I am not really sure about it, I am sure there is a website about it. Hope this helps.

7. Posted by berner256 (Travel Guru 499 posts) 1y

See this link for the timetable for trains in Europe: http://www.bahn.de/p_en/view/index.shtml

Budapest is a short train ride away from Vienna (I traveled this route in April). Vienna is a short train ride from Prague (I've done this before). EasyJet flies from Prague to Amsterdam for about $55, taking about 90 minutes. Compare this to rail (see the above link).

The rail journey from Budapest to Prague takes roughly 7 hours. The same journey from Vienna to Prague takes about 4 hours. So why go to Vienna, Budapest, then Prague? You'll save time and expense by traveling from Budapest to Vienna to Prague.