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1. Posted by johnwilly990 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

Hello Travelers!

I am a Canadian citizen and had some questions regarding the 90 in 180 Schengen rule.
I am going to the Netherlands in mid January and am planning to stay in Amsterdam until the end of June with period where I'll be in Israel and Russia/Eastern Europe in between. I calculated the total days and it is 164 and out of the 164 I'll be in the Netherlands for 89 days.
The problem is I wanted to travel France and Germany, for about 2 or so weeks, after but it seems I will not be able to since I already used up my 90 days in the Netherlands and I would have to leave the Schengen area for 90 days before returning to renew the 90 days. I was wondering if there was anything or some sort of visa I could apply for that will allow me to stay in the Schengen area past the visa free 90 days.

Thanks for all the input,


2. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5087 posts) 1y Star this if you like it!

I don't know any exceptions. However, the 180 days is a sliding window, with no fixed start date. So you wouldn't need to leave the Schengen area for 90 days before you can come back, but only for 17 days (181-164). After those 17 days, if you return, each day you spend inside Schengen would be compensated by a day from January which is falling out of the window. So you could stay for quite a few weeks still, for a period as long as your arrival in the Netherlands until your first departure. So if you have the time, I'd recommend spending 2.5 weeks in the UK, and then going to see France and Germany.

(Do note, btw, when counting days inside Schengen, that they're "inclusive". So arrival and departure days count fully as being inside Schengen.)

[ Edit: Edited on 06-Nov-2015, at 01:42 by Sander ]