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Can I buy your activated SIM card?

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1. Posted by steviegeee (Budding Member 5 posts) 22w

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Hi all,

I'm Irish, in Melbourne, and I need an activated SIM for my phone. For privacy reasons, I don't want to use my passport here to buy and activate one. Anyone heading back home want to sell me there activated SIM?

Willing to pay AU$100 cash in hand.

Cheers

Stevie

2. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 22w

That seems a crazy amount to pay for a SIM card!

I think you can get around the ID issue by using a prepaid debit card to buy a prepaid card from someone like Amaysim (see here). It's a pretty dumb rule to require ID in the first place if you ask me. Though I must admit, the fact you're willing to pay $100 to avoid detection does raise suspicions about your motives here..

3. Posted by steviegeee (Budding Member 5 posts) 22w

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately you now need a visa in your passport... something I most certainly lack :)

It might seem like a crazy amount to you.... but try and live without your mobile, and you'll quickly appreciate the value of it ;)

4. Posted by steviegeee (Budding Member 5 posts) 22w

Thanks for that amaysim link you sent, but they are requiring an Australian credit card.... travellers need to provide the passport with visa.

5. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 22w

I see. Have you got a reference to the need for a visa? The information I can find doesn't mention that - the law seems to just be that they need 100 points of id. A valid passport is valid ID, regardless of any visa being present. But it seems like you are not here legally, so I can understand the desire for privacy and the desire to not show your passport.

Some / many outlets consider a credit card or debit card to be valid id if you're paying that way. After all, you need to have ID before getting a credit card. Of course, the mistake there is that you can buy a pre-paid debit card with cash at the store, so it's not really secure ID at all.

If I were you, I'd try first buying a pre-paid debit card, then using that to buy a pre-paid sim card (one that's already got a phone number).

Actually, I'll get in touch with my friend who runs a site selling sim cards -- he'll know the rules much better.

6. Posted by steviegeee (Budding Member 5 posts) 22w

Thanks much for the info, however I've tried the prepaid debit card and it doesn't work for ID. Credit/Debit cards must be Australian. They have all recently changed now to require the visa for visitors.. "Foreign Passport holding a valid Australian Visa (affixed visa label or electronic visa)" e.g., Coles https://www.colesmobile.com.au/activate

They don't make it easy to live here... but it's worth it :)

7. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 22w

Well, I heard back and you're right - they've really cracked down on this lately. I guess you're kind of stuffed. But then, it sounds like you're not here legally so that's kind of predictable.

If you just want to make calls, how about installing Skype or similar and buying call credits through that? Downside is you still need to find a data connection somehow.

Personally I wouldn't be selling you a SIM if I had one, as it seems rather illegal.

8. Posted by Borisborough (Respected Member 424 posts) 22w

This is of no use to you steviegeee but ..... Either Australia are going madly over the top on security or New Zealand is amazingly lax (no doubt it's a bit of both) but here in NZ you can pick up a SIM card for one particular provider (2 degrees) absolutely free on board the airport bus that drives you from Auckland airport to the city centre. Then all you need to do is hand over around $20 at a supermarket for a credit code, input than into the phone and you're away. And if you miss the freebie on the bus, anyone can buy a 2Degrees SIM at the store, no ID or anything like that required.

9. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 22w

It's definitely Australia going madly over the top. It's so pointless too, since criminals can work around this so easily. Heavy handed rules adding red tape costs, inconveniencing average people and not improving security at all.

10. Posted by steviegeee (Budding Member 5 posts) 22w

Quoting Borisborough

This is of no use to you steviegeee but ..... Either Australia are going madly over the top on security or New Zealand is amazingly lax (no doubt it's a bit of both) but here in NZ you can pick up a SIM card for one particular provider (2 degrees) absolutely free on board the airport bus that drives you from Auckland airport to the city centre. Then all you need to do is hand over around $20 at a supermarket for a credit code, input than into the phone and you're away. And if you miss the freebie on the bus, anyone can buy a 2Degrees SIM at the store, no ID or anything like that required.

That sound about right.... Australia may be the land of milk and honey... but you sure do get a big fat nanny watching over your every move :)