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21. Posted by berner256 (Travel Guru 526 posts) 19w

OldPro, I respect your opinions. However, I consider Scott McCartney, Ed Perkins and a few others to be excellent travel writers. I value what they write, perhaps because I'm not such an old hand at travel; and I'm still learning.

22. Posted by OldPro (Respected Member 237 posts) 19w

I wasn't trying to imply anyone was not a good travel writer berner256. I'm just not sure what message the author was trying to convey if any.

Communication is all about the message that is conveyed to the reader. It does not matter what message the writer INTENDED to convey, all that matters is what message WAS conveyed. Communicating a message clearly is I think, a trademark of good writing. In the case of the article by Mr. McCartney, I don't think there was a clear message and that's all I am saying. He may be a good travel writer but this was not necessarily his finest piece of writing.

As I read the article it somehow seemed to be implying that the tourist was not to blame for getting caught by cameras or other factors and that the countries were somehow at fault for not allowing for the ignorance of tourists. The 'signs are all in Italian' comment for example. As if somehow there was something wrong with that.

The message I think would have been of benefit to a potential traveller is that the laws/rules/standard practices differ by country and it is the travellers responsibility to be aware of those differences if they intend to drive in a country. Is that the message you got from the article?

23. Posted by nutsnbolts (Respected Member 155 posts) 19w

Quoting OldPro

Paris and Provence are not off the beaten path nutsnbolts.

At this point, other than other people's preferences (such as mine for Antibes), what you need to do is read up on Paris and Provence and decide what YOU are interested in. Then you can come back and ask more specific questions rather than generalities which you could find answers for in any guidebook or online tourism site for yourself.

Paris and Provence is definitely not off beaten path but it would be ashamed to completely dismiss these locations to truly be on an off beaten path. I'm just looking for those folks who may have found hidden gems and would suggest them here. Something that may be hidden in the travel books or ...

To your other point, yes I'll definitely research a bit more so I can have some focused questions.

Thanks for your input.

24. Posted by nutsnbolts (Respected Member 155 posts) 19w

Quoting berner256

Nutsnbolts, you should read Scott McCartney's excellent article on driving rental vehicles overseas, particularly in Europe. It appeared in today's (June 9) Wall Street Journal.

I'll take a look at this, on the other hand, I have driven in Italy, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, and have done a combination of driving and train to cover it all. I enjoyed both experiences but with the control of having a car and hopping to different towns and cities was always a great experience especially finding non "beaten" paths.

On the other hand, I never really had any issues with signs and what not, for what's it worth I do have an international license, although, I'm not sure it really is anything that helps but I always read up on understanding signs and even then it takes a couple days to get used to it.

Nevetheless, I'm not worried.