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1. Posted by James2316 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 14w

Hello I was recently refused entry into Australia and now have a 3 year exclusion ban. I'm thinking of traveling to NZ, will this show up when entering NZ like a red flag on my passport?

2. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2424 posts) 14w

Australia and New Zealand share everything, same as the US and Canada does.

Cheers,
Terry

3. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 14w

It will probably show up, and you'll most likely get asked the question on your immigration form as to whether you've been refused entry or banned from any other country. This isn't to say that you'll be refused entry to NZ because of this though. I'd suggest calling NZ immigration to clarify it before you board a flight there.

4. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2424 posts) 14w

Chances are 99% that he'll be refused entry. New Zealand will never allow anyone facing a 3 year ban in Australia to somehow be magically welcomed into their country.

Even worse, depending on the OPer's nationality he might very well be okay boarding the flight to New Zealand, but his Passport will be red-flagged at NZ Immigration and he'll be deported at that time. That's a huge and expensive hassle.

Lastly, calling ZN Immigration is useless, they will never give an answer over the phone except to say that it's up to the discretion of the Immigration Officer at the point of entry.

The OPer's only option is to apply for a Visa and be honest about his ban from Australia and beg his case directly. Maybe there's extenuating circumstances, but I can't imagine what they would be and I'm betting NZ Immigration will deep six the application immediately.

Cheers,
Terry

5. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 14w

Quoting CheersT

Chances are 99% that he'll be refused entry. New Zealand will never allow anyone facing a 3 year ban in Australia to somehow be magically welcomed into their country.

Even worse, depending on the OPer's nationality he might very well be okay boarding the flight to New Zealand, but his Passport will be red-flagged at NZ Immigration and he'll be deported at that time. That's a huge and expensive hassle.

Lastly, calling ZN Immigration is useless, they will never give an answer over the phone except to say that it's up to the discretion of the Immigration Officer at the point of entry.

The OPer's only option is to apply for a Visa and be honest about his ban from Australia and beg his case directly. Maybe there's extenuating circumstances, but I can't imagine what they would be and I'm betting NZ Immigration will deep six the application immediately.

Cheers,
Terry

I'm not so sure Terry - Australia and NZ are two entirely separate entities when it comes to immigration. I'm not even sure it would be flagged automatically as you mentioned because as far as I know, the systems aren't linked like the USA's and Canada's are. If the OPer declares it to immigration (as he should) he will get a grilling for sure, but that's not to say he won't be allowed in. NZ Immigration may be helpful - I've had to call them many times over the years for various issues when applying for my NZ residency and work visas and most of the time they were very helpful and informative.

6. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2424 posts) 14w

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. In my experience (processing Work Permits for NZ) Australia and New Zealand share absolutely everything, they're just as close as the US and Canada.

I wish the OPer good luck. Bottom line, which I'm sure you'd agree Bex, his wondering about simply showing up and hoping for the best is a recipe for disaster. His only choice is to apply for a Visa first to be sure NZ Immigration knows about his ban from Australia.

Cheers,
Terry

7. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2424 posts) 14w

James, start your research regarding a Character Waiver here.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Terry

8. Posted by bex76 (Moderator 3713 posts) 14w

Quoting CheersT

I wish the OPer good luck. Bottom line, which I'm sure you'd agree Bex, his wondering about simply showing up and hoping for the best is a recipe for disaster. His only choice is to apply for a Visa first to be sure NZ Immigration knows about his ban from Australia.

Cheers,
Terry

Agreed - definitely not a good plan just to show up!