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1. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Hey everyone

I went backpack hunting this wknd - came home empty handed and boggled by the choice. So I need all of your suggestions/reviews/help.

The pack I was specifically looking for was the Bergaus Spirit (women's version, of course). Its a 65L + 15L day pack. First of all, can anyone recommend this one? (I think it's pretty new on the market so maybe not.....)

Anyway, the first sales guy I spoke to did not have it in stock, nor did he have its sister product, the Berghaus Silhouette. He did have a Vango Globetrotter which costs about half what the Berghaus packs cost, and according to him is a superior product.

I dont trust him.

I have an inherent distrust of anyone behind a counter.....and I also, perhaps foolishly, assume that the more expensive product is the superior one.

I will be spending a lot of time with my pack over a 12-18 month period, so I really dont want to invest in something that is going to leave me bent over in a hoop for the rest of my life.

What are the best and worst packs out there? What pack do you use and why? Is it worth spending an extra 100euro for the Berghaus model??

Advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

E;)

2. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

Hey Eve,

Been through the same dilemna. The shop only had the 60+10 litre one, so i'm just waiting for the 65+10 litre one to arrive in the shop. It was so comfortable to wear. Got them to put some weight in the pack for me so i could feel how it would be for real. It's a berghaus too.

http://www.fieldandtrek.com/cat_id/EQUIRUCKLARG/product-Berghaus-C7-1-Series-13569.htm

3. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 11y

Do not know which pack you want beforehand. Features, price, recommendations, reviews - all that is of secondary concern. The one and only thing to consider when starting to look for a pack is how it fits on your back.

Ignore any store where the salespeople do not explain this to you, and do not make it easy for you to go and try them on.

The ideal store will have a number of weights with which you can easily and swiftly weigh down a pack. Having done that, try it on. Walk through the store, back and forth, back and forth. (Ideally for the first pack the storepeople should help you adjust it so that it rests well against your back and all that.) Pay attention at how the weight is distributed (hips vs. shoulders), if it chafes anyway, etc, etc.
You'll be walking around far too much with this thing, so you'd better be certain it's a decent one.
Take out two or three hours, and try on as many packs as you can, but at least half a dozen. Again, don't look at price or features - only at different builds.

If you're lucky, one or more packs will stand out as fitting a lot better than any others, and then you can go and comparse those on price and features. If you're not - then come back the next day and try on a whole new range of packs. Back and forth, back and forth.

Then once you have found some packs that you can actually survive walking around with, forget all about them for a week, and then a week later - wearing completely different clothes (ideally switching from t-shirt to heavy sweater and coat, although I understand the weather might not make that a good idea) - try them on again, and see if they still don't chafe and are comfortable to wear.

Really.

4. Posted by happy1 (Full Member 63 posts) 11y

Hi
If you can get a backpack that zips open around the side, rather than on the top, much much easier to find things in it!

5. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

Quoting Sander

Take out two or three hours, and try on as many packs as you can, but at least half a dozen. Again, don't look at price or features - only at different builds.

If you're lucky, one or more packs will stand out as fitting a lot better than any others, and then you can go and comparse those on price and features. If you're not - then come back the next day and try on a whole new range of packs. Back and forth, back and forth.

Then once you have found some packs that you can actually survive walking around with, forget all about them for a week, and then a week later - wearing completely different clothes (ideally switching from t-shirt to heavy sweater and coat, although I understand the weather might not make that a good idea) - try them on again, and see if they still don't chafe and are comfortable to wear.
Really.

That's good advice - thanks Sander. God! The guy in the store is going to LOVE me!

You're right of course...the reason I was interested in the Berghaus was because of its varied features. It looks like it has a good back system as well...

I actually tried the Vango. The store didnt have any weights so it was hard to really judge while it was empty, but I didnt like the feel of it at all. I'm glad I held off on buying it....

Thanks!
E;)

Btw Happy - Thanks for the tip!;)

6. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 11y

Samsara,
Im the same when it comes to buying things as in trusting some shop assistants.Although ive been to a field & trek and venturesport near me and the guys were fantastic.Best thing to do is go in when they are not very busy and get chatting to them.Tell them what you are doing and you soon know whether they are talking out of their bottoms or not.Usually if they start get all technical (abit like computer salesmen with me it goes in one ear and out the other) or you think i dont trust him then walk out.Or do you know anyone you could take with you thats knows a thing or two.Test the bag out and make them load it up with anything and dont accept any substitute if the one you really want isnt in stock.
REMEMBER: your the one whos carrying it for months on end.

Also vango are an ok make but nowhere near as good as berghaus.

7. Posted by hendrix147 (Full Member 44 posts) 11y

hi evelyn
Me and my fiance recently bought our packs for our rtw trip,after months of deliberation we finally both decided on bergaus packs.
I ended up with the spirit 65+15 which i find extremly comfy(tell you next year if i still think that)and plenty big enough.
My fiance got the spectre 55+10 which she also likes alot.
They were a bit pricy, but the way i see it, they are going to be our homes for the next year so its worth paying that bit extra i think.
happy shopping
si:)

8. Posted by matt_25 (Full Member 42 posts) 11y

Hi all,

I am setting off RTW the end of June and am currently in the same dillema about what rucksack to get.

I like the look of that Berghaus Spirit, I was wondering what are the carrying straps like? Can they be zipped away? and also is it possible to lock all the compartments with padlocks. There is a similar one also called a Life Adventure Baku 75L - does anyone know what these sacks are like? I need something that is going to be solid as I will be travelling for 12 months, security is also a high priority of mine.

I need to make a decision and buy a rucksack/travelpack soon. I can't find any highstreet shops that have a good range - can anyone recommend any? (I'm in the UK). I've only looked at one travelsack at Millets called the Santiago which looks pretty good but then I am not an expert at these things.

There seems to be plenty of online places to by them from but then you run the risk of it not fitting properly when it arrives.

I like the idea of a travelpack better with detachable daypack. Do you guys prefer rucksacks or travelpacks and if so what are you reasons?

Please help me decide!!!

Thanks a lot

Matt.

9. Posted by matt_25 (Full Member 42 posts) 11y

Samsara, sorry to kind of hi-jack your thread a little, but I didn't see the point in creating a new thread to ask the same sort of things. Hope you don't mind?!?!?

10. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

Matt,

I went to Milletts too, very disappointing range. Best range of rucksacks i have seen was in Cotswold Camping. Though i am going tomorrow to get my Berghaus C70+1 from Field and Trek as it is a little cheaper (only by £10). They are quite happy for you to try on different rucksacks with weights in at Cotswold Camping and Field and Trek.