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1. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 11y

The worst place I've ever been must be Zahedan in Iran at the border with Pakistan. Zahedan means something like city of robbers . I applied there for my Pakistani visa and had to wait 6 days. The only hotel we could find was terribly dirty (without any windows) and my bed collapsed the first nigth. And then it was not very relaxing to take a shit (sorry) because it was not possible to lock the doors (one toilet was totally stopped up with...) :(. And then the people on the streets.....it seemed like it were all drugsmugglers and dealers. You really had to look out that you were not at the wrong place at the wrong time!!! One man came to me start screaming at me in Farsi and then start terribly crying. You really don't know what to think and do at that moment, it really scared me off. I don't know why I stayed for 6 days in that terrible place.....

What's the most terrible place you have ever been in?? Doesn't matter where or how, I'm interested in your story

Wouter

2. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

Wouter, did you ever go into Pakistan? I've actually gotten my pakistan visa twice and both times something happened to make it too dangerous. The first time some Americans were killed (just because they were American, so that was enough to deter me). And the second time was when the India-Pakistan (over Kashmir) started up again (and I had planned to into the Northern areas of Pakistan-Kashmir).

So I have 2 Pakistan visas in my passport and I've never been there. In 1997, I filled the gap in my travel plans by going to Uzbekistan instead, so that worked out great. I would like to go Pakistan some day.

3. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

For me, the 2 worst places that come to mind are:

1) Khartoum, Sudan: I didn't like the people I came in contact with and actually decided to leave for Egypt the same day.

2) Sumatra, Indonesia: because of the weather, it was simply way to HUMID and Hot for me. And with no air-conditioning the evenings were almost unbearable.

4. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 11y

Quoting Travel100

Wouter, did you ever go into Pakistan? I've actually gotten my pakistan visa twice and both times something happened to make it too dangerous

Actually I went trough Pakistan. The war between US ans Iraq just started (2003) and I was adviced not go (by Dutch government). But I did it anyway and with a very high speed (also because other western travellers did it and I didn't want to go back to Tehran and paying an expensive plane ticket). So in three days I got from Zahedan (Iran) to Amritsar (India). And even then (in that three days) I saw that all Pakistani people where friendly smiling and hospitable (no anti-western things).

5. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

Quoting wouterrr

Quoting Travel100

Wouter, did you ever go into Pakistan? I've actually gotten my pakistan visa twice and both times something happened to make it too dangerous

Actually I went trough Pakistan. The war between US ans Iraq just started (2003) and I was adviced not go (by Dutch government). But I did it anyway and with a very high speed (also because other western travellers did it and I didn't want to go back to Tehran and paying an expensive plane ticket). So in three days I got from Zahedan (Iran) to Amritsar (India). And even then (in that three days) I saw that all Pakistani people where friendly smiling and hospitable (no anti-western things).

Wow, between Iran, Pakistan, and then India it must have been quite an adventure (although your timing might have been a little off ).

"Friendly and Smiling" is the way I would picture the Pakistani people, I think it's part of their culture to be friendly to foreigners, but I think the problem is that it only takes ONE bad person and then you're the guy on the news blindfolded, holding your passport, with the flag behind you and the swords and guns, etc..

I'd really like to visit Peshawar, look at the Kyber Pass, Chitral (and the Kalish people there), Swat, Hunza and then over the mountains into China (and to Kashgar) Although the bus ride over those mountains might scare me to death. It's that Northern part of Pakistan that interests me the most. And aside from Peshawer is probably one of the safer areas in Pakistan.

6. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 11y

Quoting Travel100

I think the problem is that it only takes ONE bad person and then you're the guy on the news blindfolded, holding your passport, with the flag behind you and the swords and guns, etc..

I'd really like to visit Peshawar, look at the Kyber Pass, Chitral (and the Kalish people there), Swat, Hunza and then over the mountains into China (and to Kashgar) Although the bus ride over those mountains might scare me to death. It's that Northern part of Pakistan that interests me the most. And aside from Peshawer is probably one of the safer areas in Pakistan.

You are probably right about that ONE bad person. But at this moment it only happens in Iraq and the situation is only improving. And then the western media are making tall stories, so that really doesn't scare me off. I think I would go because when you travel by public transport and don't visit the real dangerous spots (like the border area with Afghanistan) its worth the risk and save enough.

I'm also dreaming about the Korakoram highway (part of the silkroute)to China. I'd like to do same trekking in northern Pakistan(near K2), I've heard there is good accomodation on the tracks. The cities of Lahore and Peshwahar are great as well.

7. Posted by daveh (Travel Guru 1027 posts) 11y

When i travelled up the Khyber to the Afghan border i had to have an armed escort. Strangely though, i was more scared of this guy in our 4x4 with a dodgy old rifle, than all the locals loitering around along the route. Peshawar was quite an exciting city as it's the gateway to the Khyber so there is a real buzz about the place.

It is ashame about the security situation. Don't think it's just Iraq where there are kidnappings though. Didn't an American journalist get kidnapped and murdered in Pakistan not too long ago??

8. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 11y

Quoting daveh

It is ashame about the security situation. Don't think it's just Iraq where there are kidnappings though. Didn't an American journalist get kidnapped and murdered in Pakistan not too long ago??

Offcourse you are right here. But you are now talking about a journalist who stays a long time and is looking for the danger for sensational news. I mean maybe he interviewed several Al-qaida members, how would you know. I think journalists are a bit reckless, don't you think? They are really trying to find their limits and are living on the edge. If you are carefull (so not going to dangerous places) and you don't let you in too much with people you don't trust it will be fine.

9. Posted by ChIqUiTtA (Respected Member 278 posts) 11y

i wasn't a big fan of bantry, ireland.... but compared to some of the other places mentioned, it doesn't sound so bad anymore!!
Lauren

10. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3379 posts) 11y

Thanks Lauren, I am not going to Ireland anymore....you really scared me off. No, thanks for your reply