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101. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 11y

There's some really great films listed here!!

Cikusang- I just watched 2046 last night, what a beautiful film! Langorous was the word used to describe it and I think I agree!

A few of my faves are here already,Donnie Darko, Lock stock and two smokin barrels, Snatch !
also some good english films glad to see them!

what about Fight club is that too obvious?

I also recently watched Balzac and the little seamstress which was really fantastic about some kids in the chinese mountains discovering western literature.
Here are some favourites:
The Usual suspects (and almost anything else with Kevin Spacey apart from American beauty-Bleurgh what a pretentious film!)
Desparado and most others associated with Tarantino! (Pulp fiction!),
Any old Kevin Smith- Clerks Mallrats
City of God, Carangiru
For plenty of laughs -Without a paddle

For my cheesy moments The Goonies! and Finding Nemo (For the turtles Duuuuuuuuddde!)

102. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 11y

I agree that the following are excellent, must-watch movies:

Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels
The Usual Suspects
2046

I also want to recommend some Chinese movies that I think are worth a shot:

In The Mood For Love - oh man, you gotta watch Tony Leung & Maggie Cheung sizzle onscreen. Yes, the pace is slow, but there's hope that Wong Kar Wai gets more accessible as he ages. Besides, you might understand 2046 better if you watch this first.

By Zhang Yimou:

Judou
Raise the Red Lantern
To Live
The Story of Qiuju
Red Sorghum

All of them starred Gong Li, his muse at the time those movies were made. Compared to his latest piece of trash (aka House of Flying Daggers), the films I listed were a stark, social commentary-type of look into China in the early 90s and before. Very strong acting from Gong Li, and you really wish Zhang Yimou would go back to making films that have more substance, like his earlier works listed above.

Farewell To My Concubine - Leslie Cheung, Gong Li and Zhang Fengyi. About the rise and fall of an opera performer in 1920s China, his friendship and love for a fellow performer, and the woman between them. Excellent film by Chen Kaige.

Eat Drink Man Woman - Before there was the horrendous Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, there was the excellent Eat Drink Man Woman, by Ang Lee. Depicts a father's relationship with his three daughters and the changes in life they encounter.

Be back with more.

103. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

Hey Summer,

Of the Chinese movies you mention, I've seen:

Farewell my Concubine (thought this was the best of the 4 I've seen)
Raise the Red Lantern
Judou
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (which I thought was kind of stupid with them flying around from house top to house top)

I have the DVD "To Live". Will have to watch it soon.

I may have a couple other "Chinese" dvd's, I'll let you know which ones when I check my foriegn dvd holder (to see if you've seen them and if they are any good).

104. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 11y

Sounds good, Jeff. I await your reviews.

105. Posted by mtlgal (Full Member 1179 posts) 11y

Quoting Travel100

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (which I thought was kind of stupid with them flying around from house top to house top)

I didn't like the movie much either because I didn't like the story. BUT, in defense of the flying over roof tops thing, I guess you can't appreciate it unless you grew up reading Chinese martial arts novels. A large percentage of Chinese people spend their teenage years (and many beyond) engrossed in these novels that depict characters flying over lakes, blowing up rocks with their "energy", killing people with a hair pin... kind of like the superheroes in the Marval comic books. So making a film with people flying from house top to house top is like making "Spiderman" or "Batman", which may seem stupid to somebody not from the Western culture ("Humans with animal super-powers? How silly is that?").

106. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

Good point mtlgal,

Obviously, I never looked at like that. But when viewed more like Spiderman, etc. rather than as a reality action movie, I can see why it would add something to the movie for the Chinese viewers. Thanks for the Information and backround. That's one of the reasons this forum is so interesting, you can get perspectives that you wouldn't otherwise have exposure to.

How about Hero? Is that movie better?, worse? My cousin tells me it's one of his all time favorites, but I haven't seen it yet.

107. Posted by mtlgal (Full Member 1179 posts) 11y

Quoting Travel100

How about Hero? Is that movie better?, worse? My cousin tells me it's one of his all time favorites, but I haven't seen it yet.

I really enjoyed "Hero". The story is based on a very well known legend involving the first emperor of China. The cinematography is simply stunning! The fight scenes are still surreal, but I think now you can overlook it now that you know the background. ;)

108. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Quoting Pardus

Back to Movies - "Top Secret"!!!!! I love that movie, we had it on video at home in Switzerland and I watched it so many times - there's always something you miss going on in the background. My favourite joke I can remember from it is the Moving Trainstation.... It's an obvious joke if you think about it, but it's done so well and it comes as a total surprise - and it's so bizarre...
I love the Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker Movies anyway, Hot Shots, Naked Gun and all the others...
BTW Did anyone ever see "Police Squad" - the 30 mins series with the Naked Gun cast (okay, most of them)?

Me too! ZAZ can always make me laugh! Yes, Police Squad was pretty popular here;)
(Hehe, I knew I liked you for a reason!;))

109. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 11y

Quoting CupCake

Me too! ZAZ can always make me laugh! Yes, Police Squad was pretty popular here;)
(Hehe, I knew I liked you for a reason!;))

What? You mean it's not because of my stunning good looks and extraordinary intelligence?

110. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 11y

mtlgal and Jeff:

I grew up watching wuxia and I'm used to all that flying about and stuff. But Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is a pathetic example of what wuxia is about, not to mention the atrocious Mandarin spoken by Chow Yun Fatt and Michelle Yeoh. Zhang Ziyi is as blah as the story, and I cannot stand this actress.

Most Chinese viewers I know don't like this movie either. So it's not always a cultural barrier where appreciation of films is concerned. There are many other better wuxia films and TV adaptations of wuxia novels about, so Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon should be banished to the trashcan.

Hero is a much better film, not so much wuxia because of its focus on stylistics, but a thought-provoking film nevertheless.

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