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111. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 11y

Hey Summer,

thanks for the insight. I did like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon but that's because for me this was something completely new when I saw it. So I don't have a point of reference. But I see your point. Maybe this movie was aimed at a Western audience more so than Chinese?

I would love to see some of the Wuxia films that you mentioned, to see how they compare to CTHD.

I think a lot of the time it depends on what movies you have seen before that influences you in whether you like a movie or not. Certain Genre tend to have the same formula in every movie and you get sick of it after a while.
And for me it's also important that I can relate to a movie or rather its characters.
And also good cinematography is a big point in movies - take example of Hero. I liked the wide angle shots they did of the country side and in the Fight scenes and the way they worked with colours. Every sequence had its own colourscheme.
And a movie should make me think, I like movies where I go out of the cinema thinking about the movie and what happened. If I go out and just think what to see next then the movie failed for me.

112. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Quoting Pardus

Quoting CupCake

Me too! ZAZ can always make me laugh! Yes, Police Squad was pretty popular here;)
(Hehe, I knew I liked you for a reason!;))

What? You mean it's not because of my stunning good looks and extraordinary intelligence?

Well of course!!! They are all just parts of the wonderful package you are!:*

113. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 11y

That's just the package, you don't know what's inside... And you don't want to know, trust me...

There's a doll inside with scars all over its face.... And a knife in his pockets... Hihihihi....

114. Posted by summer910 (Respected Member 1342 posts) 11y

Quoting Pardus

Hey Summer,

thanks for the insight. I did like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon but that's because for me this was something completely new when I saw it. So I don't have a point of reference. But I see your point. Maybe this movie was aimed at a Western audience more so than Chinese?

I would love to see some of the Wuxia films that you mentioned, to see how they compare to CTHD.

I think a lot of the time it depends on what movies you have seen before that influences you in whether you like a movie or not. Certain Genre tend to have the same formula in every movie and you get sick of it after a while.
And for me it's also important that I can relate to a movie or rather its characters.
And also good cinematography is a big point in movies - take example of Hero. I liked the wide angle shots they did of the country side and in the Fight scenes and the way they worked with colours. Every sequence had its own colourscheme.
And a movie should make me think, I like movies where I go out of the cinema thinking about the movie and what happened. If I go out and just think what to see next then the movie failed for me.

You're welcome, Pardus. Actually, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was adapted from a novel of the same name (I didn't read the novel), but I don't know what Ang Lee was thinking when he adapted it, because the flying-about scenes were so ludicrous to me. It could be aimed for a Western audience, but I just didn't see the need to make the wuxia scenes thus. It wasn't even along the lines of "Wuxia 101 for Westerners", it was just... weird, and terribly bad. I'm aghast that it won so many awards and is regarded as an example of what wuxia should be.

As I mentioned, the Mandarin spoken by Chow and Yeoh irked me, because it was terribly jarring on the ears and you could tell the difficulty of having to speak their lines in Mandarin took a toll on the performances of Chow and Yeoh, who are not fluent in Mandarin at all. Zhang Ziyi is a mediocre actress and I have no freaking idea why the hell she's so popular these days.

Sorry for the rant, .

As for good wuxia and kungfu movies, I think Tsui Hark in the early 1990s directed some pretty good ones. The Wong Fei Hung series (Once Upon A Time In China) with Jet Li was pretty enjoyable, thought not particularly wuxia. Dragon Inn was also very well done, with Brigitte Lin, Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung giving strong performances. Swordsman II is one of the all-time classics, with Brigitte Lin in particular stealing the show with her memorable role as the Invincible East. This one is directed by Ching Siu Tong instead of Tsui Hark.

For TV adaptations of wuxia novels, you have the classic 80s serials:

Legend of the Condor Heroes 1983 (1994 version quite decent too)
Return of the Condor Heroes 1984 (1995 version also pretty good)
Demi Gods & Semi Devils 1996/7 (1982 version is not bad too)
Heavenly Sword & Dragon Sabre 1986
Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain 1989

These are but some adaptations from the novels of Jin Yong (Louis Cha), probably THE authoritative voice of wuxia. Swordsman II is loosely based on one of his novels.

115. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Quoting CupCake

"Top Secret"with Val Kilmer... a cheesy movie from the 80's that makes fun of every war movie/spy movie/love story ever.

My sister and I used to watch that every time it played on the old "Pay TV" movie station. The only part I can remember is the cow costume bit - although we'd howl away at everything.

We'd also watch every run of The Goonies, The Princess Bride and Spaceballs. "She gives good helmet..." hee hee....!

116. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 11y

I forgot about the cow costume gag.... ROFL!!!!!

Ah, Spaceballs... One of my favourite Mel Brooks movies...

"Spaceballs - The Flamethrower! The kids are mad for this one..."
"Instant video - you can watch the movie while they are still filming it"

Or my favourite: "He's an asshole, sir." "Yes, I know but what is his name?" "Asshole, Sir." "His name is asshole?" "Yes, Sir."

I just love spoofs on well known movies.

117. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

"Luke...I am your father's brother's college room-mate"
HAhahhaah!

118. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Quoting Pardus

Hey Fellow TPers,

I am looking for recommendations of movies I have to see. I developed a new addiction - Movies!!

So please keep your suggestions coming - I don't have a TV and need ot rent DVDs to see good movies or go to the Cinema.

I recently watched "Close My Eyes" with Alan Rickman, Clive Owen & Saskia Reeves. The cover said it was "..The sexiest British film of the era..." I didn't really think so, but I haven't seen many British movies lately.

The plot is basically about adult siblings who are children of a broken marriage. They meet up after years apart and embark on a "forbidden and illicit" affair.

119. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 11y

Saw a movie on Monday that really moved me... "Strings". Although the story is not too original, it's the way it's made, the breathtaking art of moving the puppets (yes, it's a puppet movie).
I really liked the way they incorporated the strings in the story (they play a major part in the puppets live - when their headstring gets cut they'll die).
I think it's a movie that everybody can enjoy, it works on many different levels, and it's certainly not a kids only movie - it's much more aimed at an adult audience.

It's a Danish movie, so it may not be released in the States or anywhere else, which would be a real pity.

120. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting Pardus

I forgot about the cow costume gag.... ROFL!!!!!

Ah, Spaceballs... One of my favourite Mel Brooks movies...

Now, THAT'S a movie to watch over and over...and over again. The lines are classics!

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