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1. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

What are your opinions on the matter? Do you think she is innocent? Even if she were guilty...I think 20 years is a bit extreme...
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/27/corby.appeal/index.html

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2. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Help Sam? Pete? Hien? I put too many lines in after http, and now the link won't work! (sorry)

3. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

The link worked fine. I posted someting about his girl a while back. I was wondering what happened to her. The last I saw she was facing either "Life in Prison" or "Death" or I guess it could have been worse.

I really don't know enough about it, but guess would be that's she's innocent. Seems like it could happen to anyone (makes it kind of scary when they won't allow you to lock your suitcase her in the US). But what I was wondering is, if a drug smuggler puts the drugs in your unlocked bag, how do they then get them from you??? (assuming you don't get caught and arrested like this poor girl).

4. Posted by Travel100 (Travel Guru 1556 posts) 11y

Here was the original thread entitles "Luggage in Airports" it also has a link to a site decribing some info. about the case:

{url]http://www.travellerspoint.com/forum.cfm?thread=11279&start=1[/url]

Hey CC I'm surprised a thread slipped past you .

5. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Heheh...I must be losing my touch in my old age;)

The thing that freaked me out...There is a drug ring involving luggage handlers there...so it is feasible.....

6. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

If you are referring to the Australian convicted of drug smuggling in Indonesia, then you may be even more shocked by the following:

The Damage Done: Twelve Years of Hell in a Bangkok Prison

There was also a very well reported case years ago of Australians Barlow & Chambers, who hanged in Malaysia for possession of drugs.

In certain south east Asia countries, judicial caning is also administered before incarceration or execution of the convicted. These countries quite openly state that they want to send a clear message to all and sundry.

Judicial corporal punishment by caning is in widespread use for males in Singapore. Follow this link for more details.

7. Posted by Wocca (Inactive 3745 posts) 11y

Remember the world news about American teenager Michael Fay in 1994?

That Singapore flogs vandals was not news, but that the island republic would scourge an American was. The story made headlines worldwide, especially after U.S. President Bill Clinton asked the Singapore government to waive the caning, which he called "excessive."

8. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Quoting Wocca

Remember the world news about American teenager Michael Fay in 1994?

That Singapore flogs vandals was not news, but that the island republic would scourge an American was. The story made headlines worldwide, especially after U.S. President Bill Clinton asked the Singapore government to waive the caning, which he called "excessive."

I saw a few interviews with that belligerent little snot.(Michael Fay) It wasn't like he dropped a wrapper on the ground (although I hate littering too) but he was destructive, he was a poor 'ambassador' for the U.S. (I shudder to think the view they had of American's based on his behavior) and I think he very much deserved what he got.

9. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

Quoting Wocca

If you are referring to the Australian convicted of drug smuggling in Indonesia, then you may be even more shocked by the following:

The Damage Done: Twelve Years of Hell in a Bangkok Prison

But in that case he did the crime. In the case of the Australian, I don't think she did it. And to be perfectly honest with you what Mr.Fellows describes in his book is what prison SHOULD be like! In the U.S. they get better meals than school children, they get college degrees paid for by the state,(when so many can't afford schooling) all their medical needs are paid for by the state,(again, when so many can't afford medical care) they have exercise rooms and machines, cable television, librarys...how is THAT a punishment? Some people should have it so good.....

10. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 11y

It's a very interesting case. I have no idea whether she's guilty or not, but lean towards not guilty - then again, what do I know... Really, it is the Indonesian Court's decision and in a way we can only leave it up to them - the media is notoriously unreliable. The claim is that baggage handlers had a system of smuggling drugs domestically in Australia and somehow stuffed up and put the drugs in someone's bags who was going overseas (ok, that seems a pretty big stuffup to me - is it likely a baggage handler would be that stupid?). The claim was made by a convicted criminal in Melbourne who was unwilling to name names, because his life was in danger. The customs official at the Indonesian airport said that when he checked her bag, she didn't want to open it. In a way, I believed what he said.

Whether the penalty is too tough for drug smuggling is really Indonesia's decision.

In fact, sadder than Chappelle Corby's case is the more recent one involving 9 Australians who were smuggling heroine. They almost certainly face the death penalty. Of course, they are also clearly guilty.

But yes, it would make me very nervous travelling to Bali. Shrink wrapped bags would certainly be in order.