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11. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting Travel100

I personally value the life of animals more than the life of bad humans. To me, humans are not some "sacred" species. To me a friendly dog has more right to live, and not be abused, than a criminal human (violent rapist, murderer, etc.).

Ditto!

12. Posted by suenorris (Budding Member 16 posts) 11y

Personally, I'm at a loss to understand why you'd even put a link to that video on this discussion board.

I too could find acts of depravity, cruelty, child sex offences and the like on ths internet if I so chose.

Should I do so and provide you with a link and ask you your opinion on them???

-snip-

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13. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Quoting suenorris

Personally, I'm at a loss to understand why you'd even put a link to that video on this discussion board.

I too could find acts of depravity, cruelty, child sex offences and the like on ths internet if I so chose.

Should I do so and provide you with a link and ask you your opinion on them???

I have an opinion of you that I shall keep to myself.

I can only begin to imagine what you'd have to say about other off-topic discussions relating to Chinese proverbs, career advice, birthday wishes, the Michael Jackson trial, must-see movies, and pigeon mating habits. You must be a ton of fun at a party.

14. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

I have tried to view this video to get an idea of what this discussion entails. Alas, I am unable to see what all of you have been able to view. Just from the comments made in this thread, I am sure it is not very pretty and shows very repugnant film footages. Nonetheless, the question is valid and, if you choose to do so, it should be answered. I have the feeling that this particular video "goes straight for the gut". That being said - Animal cruelty is still a valid issue open to discussion by everyone, as long as that discussion can remain civil.

It's a volatile subject - but let's try to keep the discussion from escalating to personal attacks. I will keep trying to find a way to view this video so I can properly comment on it.

15. Posted by suenorris (Budding Member 16 posts) 11y

I admit that I don't go to too many parties these days, but I don't see what that has to do with someone posting a link to a depraved video onto this site.

I can certainly discuss topics that are, to say the least, unpalatable, without having to view the material under discussion.

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16. Posted by cikusang (Respected Member 1361 posts) 11y

Thanks for all the feedbacks, TP members.

I see some of you may think that there is no point attaching the weblink here. That is why I named the thread as "Animal Abuse' as 'precaution'. (mentally prepared)

If you think that this is pointless doing discussion here...fine. To tell you the truth, I let ALL my students - from primary schools to secondary schools even my parents and students' parents 'BY CHANCE' to watch this link on my latest presentation.

What an emosion to drag me doing this - i shouldn't in terms of 'so-called' professionalism letting my students to watch them as some parents addressed their unsatisfaction. What about cartoons on TV fulled of violence? 4 criminal cases happened so far - killing their friends and parents at the young age as they were 'taking themselves' in the world of Play Station and PC games. So, what do you think about this issue?

Share with you something, after watching this movie clip, one of my student who is a dyslexic child wrote a poem about his feeling.

"Sad sad is all I feel,
My heart is broken,
Although wet tears become dry,
My heart will not die.
Loving animals,
like loving all my life."

John Chen - 10 years old who wrote this after watching the WHOLE movie clip. His parents were so shocked to know this as this is his ever first self-written poem!

Recently there was a case a young child was attacked by a dog in my country and very quickly, the government urged that housing area to take away all the dogs so NOBODY would get hurt in future. So the residents stood up and complained.

Human take dogs as pets; some of them treat dogs like family members and close friends and some do not.

Many people remained silence the moment the clip was on the play. Many even dashed out and some sat calmly on the chair watching them while weeping.

That was a very emotional day as for all of us.

Lee

17. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting suenorris

I admit that I don't go to too many parties these days,

That is very sad .

Quoting suenorris

I can certainly discuss topics that are, to say the least, unpalatable, without having to view the material under discussion.

My personal suggestion for this statement will be to stick to those topics you find of interest...just a thought but mostly just stating the obvious. This is more of a TRAVEL related website with a side forum for OFF TOPIC issues. This OFF TOPIC forum welcomes people from all over the world to place their comments, ideas, suggestions, or simply refrain from posting if they find the topic on NO INTEREST to them. Not EVERY topic is meant to suit the needs or interests of Anne, John, Kim, Richard...or even suenorris. But the most important thing I think is to keep it civil, cordial and nice without personal attacks that may offend anyone unless personal pleasure is found in doing so (for which I suggest looking for another less amicable wesbite).

Sorry I had to spell this out Pete/Sam but I just dont think she really GETS it.

18. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

The pets in our house are like extra members of the family. We recently got a new retriever pup. I LOVE HIM. He's such a "little boy" pup - a real trouble-maker, but you can't stay cross with him for long. He's torn so many of my clothes already, so much so that I have to change into my "duds" every evening now when I go home. My Dad will give him a little tip on the nose to discipline him, which you have to do really with dogs to let them know who's boss, but I just can't do it. I can't.

The thought of anyone hurting an animal is abhorrent to me. They are so trusting and dependent on us for their quality of life. I remember when I was young watching a traveller (gypsy) flogging a small pony and I cried for hours after. Another particularly gruesome story that sticks out in my mind was one that I read in a local newspaper here in Limerick - a dog was found in a supermarket car-park in the city skinned alive and left for dead. A lump comes to my throat even typing it out.

Hallow'Een seems to be a particularly bad time for attacks on animals. When I lived in Dublin I heard stories about cats nailed to pieces of timber and thrown into bonfires, fireworks strapped to animals backs and set alight...everyone's heard various horror stories, I'm sure.

Like Anne, there are days when I find animals preferable to human beings. I'm not saying, I'm not upset when I hear about attacks on other people, but there is something so cruel and evil about intentionally harming a helpless, trusting animal.

19. Posted by areinstein (Travel Guru 2788 posts) 11y

Quoting cikusang

That was a very emotional day as for all of us.

Like you said Lee, people are welcome to watch it OR NOT. Thats the beauty of free will and freedom of choice.

Some people may consider watching the video a bit morbid...my husband didnt want to watch it for that reason. I sent it to anyone I felt needed to watch it and most comments were..."I already know what happens, I just didnt need to see that...".

The bottom line is I also know what happens, and not just with animals, but with people all over the world and I still needed to see that. It makes you more human, more compassionate, more understanding because it touches your heart unlike anything you may feel on an average day. But mostly, depending on the effect it may have on you as a person, it allows you to become a voice for those who can not speak for themselves...and in my case, it is done out of anger. Knowledge is power and the more I learn about EVERY subject, the closer I can become to reaching my philanthropic dreams someday. Thanks Lee!

20. Posted by cikusang (Respected Member 1361 posts) 11y

Knowledge is power and the more I learn about EVERY subject, the closer I can become to reaching my philanthropic dreams someday.

I like this quote!

Lee