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1. Posted by luciano (Full Member, 42 posts) 10 Jun '05 09:16

The australian embassy have today increased their warnings regarding all non-essential travel to indonesia.
Bali is part of my RTW trip and I am due to arrive there early december but I am now having second thoughts. They say they have received credible reports that hotels with "westerners" are being targeted.
The articles are here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/06/09/travel.indonesia/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-06/10/content_450347.htm

Have these warnings been given before and how seriously should they be taken?
I would love to go to bali but maybe its not worth the risk. Has anyone got any advice on this?
cheers,
luciano.

2. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive, 1052 posts) 10 Jun '05 22:27

do you think that as the rtw traveller would you be staying in Bali hotels? What I have heard they are expensive and full of package tourists.

By December you will most probably know whether this warning was valid.

3. Posted by Wocca (Inactive, 3745 posts) 11 Jun '05 00:03

Quoting luciano

The australian embassy have today increased their warnings regarding all non-essential travel to indonesia.
Bali is part of my RTW trip and I am due to arrive there early december but I am now having second thoughts. They say they have received credible reports that hotels with "westerners" are being targeted.
The articles are here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/06/09/travel.indonesia/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-06/10/content_450347.htm

Have these warnings been given before and how seriously should they be taken?
I would love to go to bali but maybe its not worth the risk. Has anyone got any advice on this?
cheers,
luciano.

December is a long time away. The situation could be completely different by then.

After September 11 and the Bali bombings, many people complained to their governments that they were not warned. Now warnings are issued more regularly. I was married to a Chinese Indonesian woman in Jakarta. Every now & then, there are bombings or protests around the Australian & American embassies. They are mainly for attention more than any thing else.

The serious protesters head to the Chinese sector to burn and loot the Chinese shops. It's probably more jealousy than any thing else. My Indonesian wife mentioned that a few years ago she could not go into the streets or go home for the evening after work. Instead she slept in the office.

4. Posted by Eefs (Budding Member, 77 posts) 13 Jun '05 06:58

i am worried about this situation too! I read in the paper yesterday that the UK government has also just issued a warning against all non-essential travel.....We never really seem to get the full story surrounding the threat of danger over here. It is said that there is an attack on Westerners imminnent in the coming months. I am travelling there next month & am still unsure if it is REALLY necessary to change my plans. (I am travellin with two other girls and am a little weary of that also)

5. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru, 2026 posts) 13 Jun '05 07:00

I just read the FCO website and the latest advice (10th June) only advises against travel to some parts of Indonesia.

6. Posted by thezenyen (Full Member, 88 posts) 14 Jun '05 00:11

Quoting magykal1

I just read the FCO website and the latest advice (10th June) only advises against travel to some parts of Indonesia.

Hi there,

What's the FCO website? I too am trying to find out about travel to Indonesia, specifically Yogjakarta.

Info appreciated.

Yen

7. Posted by Eefs (Budding Member, 77 posts) 14 Jun '05 02:36

FCO website is a UK government site that has up to date travel info. It advises on countries which you shouldnt travel to under any circumstances & those where you should exercise extreme caution. www.fco.gov.uk. Also, try the Australian version of this which is very good http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/Indonesia

8. Posted by Disgolf (Budding Member, 6 posts) 29 Aug '05 17:14

well... in my opinion, these travel warnings are bunk.

while there may be some validity, i think it is way over exaggerated. The country is fairly 'new' (gained independence like 60 years ago?) and there are a lot of different nationalities struggling for recognition. so there’s bound to be conflict. the areas where this is most prevalent is Ache, Sulawesi, and east timor. these three areas equate to somewhere near the size of Texas. granted, there is something like 95% Muslim community there and extremist action and anti 'infidel form the west' attitude does exist, but it's rather rare.

Imagine if the travel warning for America was anything like the nightly news here in cali: 'little girl rapped and killed... innocent family dies in freeway shooting in LA... 'man uses child as human shield in gun battle...' we see some pretty f-ed up sh*t here in the states - more likely than not most the rest of the world is safer than here, especially considering recent events. which is yet another point; does the travel warning for America restrict to 'Essential Travel only' after 9/11? what about the constant threat of terrorism here? we are sitting on the largest terrorist target in the world! and the 'chance of repeat attack' is "very likely"?

no, i think after talking to some friends (who are Indonesian) that in general it is a very safe, welcoming, and curios nation - and many say one of the greatest places they have visited.

all that said, it would be foolish to ignore the threat - so take the standard precautions and you should be fine. Don’t stay in a 5-star hotel, don’t spend all your time in 'western areas' (cumon were traveling to get away, why would we want to be around a bunch of club-med cardigan vest 'round the neck, dress shoes-black socks & kaki short wearing weekend warriors, here on the latest cruise ship anyway?)

I'm actually going to be there from Sept-Nov and can honestly say im not too worried. I too will be going to Yogjakarta as well, and i mentioned it to my Indonesian friend and they said it was a great place.

as far as women traveling, from what i understand, there is little risk - especially if there are three of you - but as always - there is bound to be a risk in walking around by yourself; just be smart;)

P.S. - if anyone will be there at the same time feel free to contact me and perhaps we can partner up for a leg.

9. Posted by Disgolf (Budding Member, 6 posts) 29 Aug '05 17:31

ok, ok. they may not be 'bunk', and as i said there may be a certain validity to them. but as i am going to spend about a week in Bali/Jakarta combined out of 2 months - i'll be pretty removed from any center target. and even then, i cant picture a 1-star hostle as much of a target... so, just a disclaimer about the point of view im coming from... have fun, be safe, make wise dicisions.

10. Posted by rolla (Full Member, 32 posts) 30 Aug '05 01:41

dear all,
bali's one of the most welcoming places i've ever been to! for girls alone too! NO WORRY!
what disgolf says about many places in the world being targeted is absolutely true, i'm italian and in europe it seems that nowadays u're in danger everywhere. rome's supposed to be the next target. i've just come back from egypt, jordan and israel, and once u're in the place everything looks very different.
just follow the general precautions, and what disgolf says about avoiding western-only areas is a good tip: bali is not just kuta and luxury resorts, there's ubud, the north and east coast, volcanoes, temples, ceremonies and much more! my advice is rent a motorbike and drift around rice terraces in central bali.

take care