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1. Posted by ROLLonOZ (Full Member 36 posts) 11y

ROLLonOZ has indicated that this thread is about Australia

Just a hypothetical

If i got caught without a ticket on a tram in Melbourne and got fined $150.... which i was to ignore...

would it show up at passport control when i try and leave the country in September?

Hypothetical of course ;)

2. Posted by KoalaGirl (Travel Guru 307 posts) 11y

It would be very, very unlikely that it would show up at Immigration or Passport control:

I know of others who have avoided traffic fines in QLD (including running a red light) and those who have left behind speeding fines in the US - none of these people have ever had trouble entering or leaving the country since....

Ultimately it's your decision, but given the arrogance and rudeness of most of the Tram ticket inspectors in melbourne, who can only most aptly be described as Bullies, I would be pleased to see you 'stick it up em'!

3. Posted by Mikey B (Respected Member 181 posts) 11y

When I first arrived in Melbourne with my Irish mate Simon we were advised to not bother buying a tram ticket but to keep a good look out for the dreaded ticket inspectors.

Anyway first time on a tram and I bottled it and bought a ticket whilst Simon looked at me like I was an idiot. Why waste your money he said.

Anyway the very next stop the tram is besieged by a gang of ticket inspectors, all dressed in hard-to-spot grey shirts. I think we thought they'd play fair and wear bright orange or something!

There was no escape for poor Simon. I sat there with a smug grin on my face as he was asked for his ticket. Now Simon's from Belfast and has a strong accent to say the least. He tried to explain that he had just arrived in Melbourne and didn't know he had to buy a ticket onboard etc. The Inspector looked at him as if he were speaking Japanese, not understanding a word he was saying. He motioned to the ticket machine and tried explaining to Simon what to do using sign language and then gave up and left.

All very hilarious. I don't think he ever did bother buying a tram ticket after that!

4. Posted by stevieh (Respected Member 613 posts) 11y

If you get as far as a fine, what details do they take?

Could you be traced by the information you've given? I'd expect them to take the right details, but I wouldn't honestly know.

At the risk of sounding like an old fart, I would suggest that maybe the Melbourne tram ticket inspectors are bullies because everybody tries to avoid paying! Remember that what you 'get away with' impacts on future travellers.

Reminds me of the morning train between Windermere and Kendal, where the 200 school kids that use it every day don't buy tickets because they know that the single inspector can't possibly force more than a dozen of them to pay in the 10 minute journey!

5. Posted by Peter (Admin 5809 posts) 11y

It's easy to cheat the system in Melbourne, but I personally find it reprehensible, though I do concede the tram conductors are overly heavy handed at times. If you're going to use services though, you should be willing to pay for them. It's fare evaders that keep on driving up ticket prices for good corporate citizens.

And I agree with Steve that it reflects very badly on travellers to be trying to cheat local laws. If you don't want to pay for a ride, try walking - no-one can charge you for that.

6. Posted by SabrinaG (Budding Member 12 posts) 11y

Quoting "Mikey B"

There was no escape for poor Simon. I sat there with a smug grin on my face as he was asked for his ticket. Now Simon's from Belfast and has a strong accent to say the least. He tried to explain that he had just arrived in Melbourne and didn't know he had to buy a ticket onboard etc. The Inspector looked at him as if he were speaking Japanese, not understanding a word he was saying. He motioned to the ticket machine and tried explaining to Simon what to do using sign language and then gave up and left.

All very hilarious. I don't think he ever did bother buying a tram ticket after that!

Mikey loving that story, very funny, especially since I have one of those "Broad" North of Ireland accents myself, so does that mean that no ones gonna understand me when I hit Melbourne in Sept... ach sure no one does half the time anyway!... had a wee look in your gallery... amazing shots...

7. Posted by ROLLonOZ (Full Member 36 posts) 11y

Thanks guys

I should point out that i DO buy a weekly ticket every week for work, but cos of the national holiday a few weeks ago my weekly ticket didn't cover that day. I chanced it and got found out, totally my fault.

I don't particualrly agree with fare evasion however the heavy-handedness i've witnessed on trams of inspectors only goes to damage the relationship between the company and its passengers, and people are less inlclined to be honest.

Thanks again

8. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 11y

Yes, you possibly could. If you don't pay it goes to state revenue offices, if you don't pay them it goes to court, if you don't show up in court they assume guilt and convict you, if convicted you could end up on a number of databases. And if you think about it for about a nanosecond where do crims usually try and go????? Out of the country of course - through customs. So to think that you wouldn't be on the customs or immigration database is a little naive.

And if convicted you'll never be allowed in oz on any sort of visa again.