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11. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 11y

Well, I'm no fan of 'shooting to kill' policies in general. From what I understand though, this man had bombs strapped around him, was linked to the previous bombings and didn't stop when repeatedly told to.

Two specific problems face police officers in a situation like this:
1) if you shoot too low, you may actually detonate the bomb.
2) if you just insure the guy, he may have time to still detonate.

Well, of course the police have to be certain beyond doubt of someone's intentions before such actions, but if they ARE certain (and I would assume they were in this case), I can't see any other choice. That said, the reports that they 'unloaded five shots into him' after catching him seem ominous to say the least.

What a sad state of affairs!

[ Edit: 'cause I can :) ]

12. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

it appeares now that he hadn't got a bomb - but was a suspect in a previous day attempted bombing.

There is a possibility that he was gunned so he can't talk who send him - when police sit on him they know he hasn't got any package on him.

13. Posted by cikusang (Respected Member 1361 posts) 11y

This is certainly a depressing topic...as metaphoric as a mega-labyrinth

14. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 11y

I just heard on the radio...

"The police say that the man they killed yesterday was unconnected to the attempted bombing on wednesday and that they regret the mans death."

15. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 11y

Yes, it's starting to look like an innocent man was shot over absolutely nothing. How very tragic indeed! I guess the 'pc' crowd was right to be concerned over such things. Remind me not to run when trying to catch a train :(

16. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/24/london.tube/index.html

They 'regret'?? I somehow don't think regret is a strong enough word...

17. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 11y

I still think it depends what evidence the police had - the police are in a tough situation, what would they have done had they thought the guy had a bomb, and he did, but they didn't shoot him and he blew up the train?

I think it comes down to making sure that the police have really clear guidelines (maybe they do) AND making sure that everyone else is aware of them.

18. Posted by bob flinn (Full Member 173 posts) 11y

To quote the opening statement: -
"Bombs in London again - this time prevented by armed police.
Suicide bomber shoot on the spot - the bomb did not explode. The station and whole area cordonned off".
All this was written, not based on any information that was available at the time! subsequent writers' then went along with the thought trail established by this.However later actual information is alarming, an innocent man is dead.
It is regretable that the British police believe that there is a need for this level of action to protect us all. This new policy seems to have been adopted from Israel and I'm not sure of any evidence that it is either effective or maybe even counter-productive.
Maybe we should all be trying to address the problem by doing our best to unite people of all ages and religions,in finding a common way forward that does seek to impose any one dogma as the "only true way".
As travellers we all know that in every country the vast majority of people we meet are extremely friendly and happy to welcome us into their community as we are.
Tolerance, respect, understanding, good manners all are values we need to share.

19. Posted by bob flinn (Full Member 173 posts) 11y

Can I please post a correction to one paragraph of my message: -
It show read:
Maybe we should all be trying to address the problem by doing our best to unite people of all ages and religions,in finding a common way forward that does NOT seek to impose any one dogma as the "only true way".
My cringing apologies, a tendancy to see what you think you have written and not the actual words.

20. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 11y

The story is, the house the guy lived in was under surveillance and when he left they thought he was on a bomb mission. He was a young Brazillian engineer.