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1. Posted by Peter (Admin 5809 posts) 11y

Oh dear oh dear! Anyone else watching him fall all over the place on today's time trial at Le Tour ?? Very dramatic!

2. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Sorry!!! Missed it! But we're sure that Reece - wherever he is - was watching...

3. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 11y

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr no i didnt see it but the main man kicked some butt yet again.GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCE ARMSTRONG.

just think at christmas i have 120 hours of cycling to watch on dvd.
rasmussen changed bikes 4 times and fell off twice.shame he couldnt handle the pressure as i didnt want jan ullrich to get on the podium.

4. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Here we thought you would be glued to some TV set since you didn't have internet access to entertain us with your tales of travel!!!!

Wow, you're going to be a fun at Christmas... Where's Reece? Dinner's ready. Oh, he's too busy watching Lance Armstrong win the Tour... (again) Oh, okay - let him be - just that much more for us!!!!!!

Isa is cheering on Lance also, so please do not misconstrue her intent... ;)

[ Edit: Fixed emoticon - just because... ]

5. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 11y

Televisions dont exist in Atlantic City.
Anyway when im in Austin,Texas im going to knock on lances door and invite him and sheryl crow out for a beer

6. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

B*gger.

I didn't manage to see a single stage or even more than very brief highlights on tv for the entire tour. Stup1d travelling. Grrrr.

Normally i go to 3 or 4 stages and watch the rest in full on TV. I'm a huge cycling nut and know a fair chunk of pro's as well. This travelling lark isn't all it's made up to be. Just going to have to make sure i find myself somewhere useful to watch Zurich, San Sebastien and the Vuelta now, but think my cahnces are probably slim

Many congrats to Lance (and Thor, Michael, Yaroslav and Ivan for coming second despite having riden the giro to win - and only missing outr because of one days horrible sickness), although i so wish that he hadn't won again. He's managed to raise the profile of cycling to unheard of levels around the world whilst simultaneously ruining the sport because of his contempt for all other events

7. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 11y

Quoting Gelli

although i so wish that he hadn't won again. He's managed to raise the profile of cycling to unheard of levels around the world whilst simultaneously ruining the sport because of his contempt for all other events

so what was lance meant to do then just plod along without worrying what level he could get to.TOTAL RUBBISH.
as for him just concentrating on winning the tour de france SO WHAT.
jan ullrich pretty much did the same and look where it got him NOWHERE.Pretty much most of the other top cyclists only use other races as preparation for the Tour.
And how on earth has the guy ruined cycling when hes never been caught taking drugs like some many people have.
At the end of the day the guy trained in wind rain and snow and pushed himself further than anyone else would.He would learn every corner of every stage by constantly riding up and down them especially the mountains.
And look what hes achieved with his cancer foundation.was it 47 million wristbands at the last count?

8. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

I take your argument, but i must respectful disagree. Everybody has different opinions/thoughts, and here's mine:

It's his lack of interest in any other event that i really hate (i'm speaking here as a former decent semi-pro who still knows and trains with a number of pros). I have no problem with him winning, or even concentrating mostly on the tour until he had won 6, even though that irk'd me a bit. But after he had the outright record, he had feck all to prove and would have ganied a heck of allot more kudos/respect etc if he had then tried the Giro, for example, and ridden it to win.

It's nothing to do with the drugs thing. I have no idea whether he is clean or not, but have no reason to doubt him. Some i know are/have cheated/used drugs, some i suspect, some i know or am 98% sure are clean. Lance i don't know personally and have no reason to doubt that he is clean so don't. And i have huge respect for his cancer efforts - which i support - as a human, cyclists, and someone who's fiancee died of cancer.

It's just me as a big cyclist finds it disspaointing that somebody with such a huge profile can show such utte contempt for every otehr event, including both those that helped him get to the point that he was able to compete, and win, the Tour, and those he never even entered in over 10 years of competing. The sport needs its big names to ride in a variety of events, and at the very top, at least try and win more than 1 a year, or the spiral which is occuring now will continue to get worse.

You might say SO WHAT that he concentrates only on one event, but if that keeps up, all the oteh events become worthless, interest dies out, and teh sport collapses in on itslef. Yes the Tour is the Pinnacle, especially for stage racers, but it is by no means the only important event. That's all i'm saying. And i know Lance's argument well enough, but to me that is very circular reasoning - the main reason the tour is the only really popular event in the US and for the US Tv channels is that it's the only one he took seriously so they needed to cover!

No problem with him winning, support his cancer efforts wholeheartedly, don't think he's cheating. But his lack of effort at giving something back to cycling and helping bring other top events to international prominence are non existent, and that's what i hate.

In my view, the Best Tour rider of his generation? Yes. Best tour rider ever? No. Best cyclist ever? Not a cats chance in hell, as he never proved it. And the sad thing is, he really could have been as his pre cancer career showed that he could have been one of the greatest 1 day riders of all time as well.

9. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 11y

whats it got to do with you being a so called former decent semi pro and you train with a number of pros? Does that mean you know more than anyone else or you are just trying to proof a point.
look at all the other all round cyclists you dont see them trying to win all the 3 tours in a year because in this day and age it aint going to happen.you hardly see any of them riding the other 2 tours either except maybe basso doing 2 this year and that was a one off.
he won 7 because the others were not good enough to beat him.people hated him for that but thats their problem,the guy cant win.
people always love a guy who comes 2nd yet tries hard.
And how could he show utter contempt for every other event that helped him get where he is now? it was hard training that got him to where he is now.Just because cycling is spiralling into thin air isnt just down to him.In fact if it wasnt for him even less people would be interested.Hardly anyone in the USA is interested in cycling anyway.
So lance hasnt given anything back to cycling.Now that is the biggest pile of rubbish ive ever heard.
Maybe he could of been a great one dayer but who remembers one dayer riders and thats hardly on the same level as winning the tour.
The big riders you have at the moment:

jan ullrich-always the bridesmaid never the bride.replaces hard work with eating and partying to much and falters when the pressure gets to much.

ivan basso-has obviously been watching and learning from lance but still doesnt have the edge to beat lance.

gilberto simoni-all mouth and no action.ranting he will beat lance and fails in style.is only interested in the giro.

roberto heras,floyd landas,joseba beloki,levi leipheimer-all want to be the boss of their own team and fail miserably.

the list is endless.
as for lance now hes now going to keep helping the team out and try and sign his protege while doing things for the discovery channel.
dont you just hate him.NOT

10. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

whats it got to do with you being a so called former decent semi pro and you train with a number of pros? Does that mean you know more than anyone else or you are just trying to proof a point.

Not at all that i know more than anybody else at all - rather just trying to say that i am a big fan and not somebody who's contact with cycling is limited to watching occassional half hour Tour round-ups and Olympic medal ceremonies and thinks they know it all (of which there are many around)

you hardly see any of them riding the other 2 tours either except maybe basso doing 2 this year and that was a one off.

Actually, it's no where near a one off - A great many of them will ride 2, although 3 is unusual for somebody with any kind of overall ambitions. You say it isn't possible to ride 2 to win in the same year, but it's not all that long ago that Indurain was winning both Giro and Tour in the same year. The Spanish (and Spanish team) contingent almost all ride the Vuelta seriously after the Tour, and a few the Giro as well - although sometimes instead of the Tour. Basso this year has been amazing - He went to the Giro to win, and bar one horrible day when he was really sick (as opposed to not good enough) he was riding at the limit and may well of won it had he not been sick and lost so much time that day. Then he comes to the tour and leaves as runner-up.

In fact if it wasnt for him even less people would be interested.

I actually fully agree with that. But the people who would be interested anyway and the traditional nations would be interested in more than one event, as opposed to now a greater number of people are interested, but to a point don't even know there are any otehr events. Yes the tour is the Blue Ribband event, if you want, but the other 2 GTs are just as important and carry the same ranking points.

So lance hasnt given anything back to cycling.Now that is the biggest pile of rubbish ive ever heard.

That came out a bit wrong - of course he has given a heck of allot to cycling. But he's given so much more to the Tour de France (profile reaised enourmously) rather than the sport in general (which if anything the profile has fallen rather than risen due to so much emphasis on the Tour - He barely even bothered with the World or American Championships after his return), and if a sport has one overwhelming superstar, the pubic want to actually see that superstar for more than 3 weeks a year (ignoring countless Tv appearances). And certainly don't want that superstar to stop racing with the season not yet 2/3rds over as he has done repeatedly. He is the top man in the sport, so he should be visible in the sport, even if just in supporting roles for team mates, rather than only visible on TV for half of the year.

In the view of many (and myself), it would have been so great for him after 6 Tour wins for him to say, thats' great, i've got the record, now lets try something different. A new challenge. Lets go for Liege or Flanders, and then the Giro to win (as he said for ages he might well do, although we all kind of doubted it). Maybe even keep racing after July and do the Vuelta & world championships as well. Have the guts to even skip the Tour completely, although in recent years its a rare occurrence that a contendor voluntarily skips the Tour. A classic and Giro-Vuelta double on different sorts of races, plus ending his career as World Champion again would have given him a much more rounded Palmares and opened up much of the Lance adoring public to the fact that other important events do (or as it's going, did) exist.

I can see that we're going to disagree on this, which is fair enough, so perhaps we should just agree to disagree and leave it at that.