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1. Posted by applegirl (Full Member 144 posts) 11y

Last week I bought a very interesting book called 'Baghdad Burning - girl blog from Iraq'. The book is based on a blog written during the time after the recent war in Iraq by a girl living in Baghdad, she calls herself Riverbend.
She still keeps her blog at: http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

I think her account of what has happened and is happening in Iraq is very important, and something that should definitely be spread to a wide audience, it makes up for a different picture than what Fox, Sky, CNN etc provides us with.
She writes with passion, irony, humour and rage... Please have a look at the blog or buy the book! It will undoubtedly make you question what has been achived by this war/'liberation'.

2. Posted by SeeTheSky (Respected Member 558 posts) 11y

my dear god i wish i could do something. i would seriously do anything just to make my stupid ass country realize that our magical shithole of lies and gluttony is actually the oppressor here, not the oppressed. EVERYone should read that link, ESPECIALLY if you live in america. dear god i was pissed before now i tear down the entire freakin goverment. what the hell is wrong with americans. our lie has gone on way too long, we've been the bad guy this whole story called modern life and we thought otherwise. damn im angry...
ive always been pissed at my inability to change all this shit before, but not like this.
im ashamed to have been born and raised on this stolen land living on borrowed time. we wouldnt be shit if it werent for the wiping out of american indians and the profit from slavery.
i HATE america. ignorance has been an excuse for WAY to long.

3. Posted by Cupcake (Travel Guru 8468 posts) 11y

This really isn't a great place to be posting how much you hate a country.

4. Posted by evakan (Full Member 188 posts) 11y

Wow Evan. You definately do sound angry.

5. Posted by applegirl (Full Member 144 posts) 11y

I can understand SeeTheSky's rage and frustration though even though I certainly don't identify a whole nation with it's leader/s - far from it. I mean just here in London 2 million people (!!) went out a day in February two years ago to demonstrate against the war in Iraq, as many millions did accross the globe that very same day, and did that make our leaders listen to us? No, it didn't. And this shows that what the leaders of a country do doesn't have to reflect the view or opinion of the population at all.

The reason why I posted the link to Riverbend's blog is that she gives us an insight into what it is to actually live in Baghdad these days, when you read her blog it's easy to get angry, distressed and upset because you realise that she is ... just like you and me. And this war has caused her so much grief and pain, still she has not lost hope and she is still here. Unlike several close friends or family members who's lost their lives and whose immediate family now walk around like shadows, living and breathing but not seeing and feeling anylonger because everything has been taken away from them.

In my opinion the leaders these days seem to try their best turning people against each other, blowing up religious and cultural differences out of proportion (Christians against Muslims as an example) while they would of course never admit to doing it, because such an act is very racist or at least something close to creating racism.
This war on terrorism can never be won, it only leads to more violence and more suffering as is quite obvious just from the past couple of weeks in London, Turkey and Egypt... And yes there is a clear link between these attacks and the war in Iraq/Afganistan but of course our leaders won't admit or discuss this because that is the same as to say that what they've done has been a big mistake that lots of innocent people (between 50 000 - 100 000 in Iraq for instance) have lost their lifes for.

On a personal level though I think that there is a movement in another direction among 'ordinary' people, perhaps because some of us live in big cities where the whole world is represented. Others, like many on this forum, have had a chance to travel in one or many countries with a very different culture etc from our own - and I think one thing that have taught us is that beyond the appearant differences there are far more things we all have in common.

There is so much to say about this and I think I could probably write an whole essay about the wonderful diversity we have, about the respect and genuine love we are born with, about war and political leaders who have lost touch with 'their people' and reality... But thanks if you've read this far.

6. Posted by tp3813 (Budding Member 20 posts) 11y

although applegirl is of course correct in some ways, that you cannot judge a nation by its leaders, the fact is the Americans elected Bush and what is being perpetrated in Iraqi is being done in their name!

Seems Americans never learn from history,they caused unimaginable misery with their previous escapade in Vietnam and now they are doing the same thing in Iraq- and no doubt they will get their asses kicked out of there just like they did in Vietnam, but only after they have ruined the place and killed hundreds of thousands of people!

Having served myself as a professional soldier in the British Parachute Regiment, I have had some experience of American military and I consider a lot of them a bunch of trigger happy cowboys. They have a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later .....they have always been like this!
In fact looking back in the first Gulf war the trigger happy Americans managed to kill more British soldiers by mistake, than the Iraqis did in combat which kind of speaks for itself!
.....and many innocent Iraqis are paying the price at the moment.

Fortunately I am out of the military now and I certainly would have had moral reservation had I been sent to Iraq, but unfortunately soldiers don't have the choice of saying No.
We must do what our hypocrite leaders tell us to do. In regard to my own country UK- After seeing how Blair behaved I would certainly never join up again or advise anyone else to, until these people are accountable for their actions and the lies they tell!
And one day pigs might fly....

7. Posted by evakan (Full Member 188 posts) 11y

I think the posts in this thread should regard our opinions of the 'Iraqi Girl Blog', not each others countries.

8. Posted by SeeTheSky (Respected Member 558 posts) 11y

if i offended anyone personally im sorry, and i feel bad about generalizing, but shit people come on something has to change i cant stand sitting around watching this shit happen. you know its wrong, its obvious that this whole operation is blatant bullshit.

you can feel it from every major politician when they walk up to a podium and spew shit at us with that obvious aura of guilt. you can feel it in their words, and just by everything that is so obviously wrong.

ok i went off on a tangent there, but understand my somewhat overemotional attitude toward this, i want to cry just thinking about all that have suffered becuase of our country's damn agenda and our nationwide (in general) ignorance and unfounded fear. IT has to change, and dont know what i can do, im starting small, one on one basis here, but i gotta try to do something.

thanks for listening and understanding,
Evan

9. Posted by Peter (Admin 5809 posts) 11y

I hear ya Evan. The way the world seems to be heading is enough to drive anyone to desperation.

Quoting one of our politicians, "Your right to not have your bag searched is outweighed by my right to not be blown up"

And Blair may well like you to believe that your right to not be shot is outweighed by our right to not be blown up.

First it will be random bag checks and constant camera surveilance. ID cards are already in the works. Then it will be our mail, then it will be random strip searches. 1984, here we come. Maybe I'm pessimistic, but who in their right mind would have considered random bag checks reasonable five years ago? I'd sooner go to jail then allow a police officer to put their hands in my bag for no reason.

Far from 'fighting terrorism', I consider these latest 'security measures' another form of surrendering to terrorism. Our leaders are so terrorised that they are willing to trample all over our rights as human beings and invade random countries for false purposes. WMDs anyone?

I don't hold all Americans accountable for this state of affairs. I know there are enough Americans grounded in reality to give them some credit. I feel sorry for them as they have to deal with the downward-spiralling perception of their country, just like so many Australians have to deal with the similarly worsening perception of Australia.

Let's try to keep the thread as objective as we can though. Anger never convinces anyone, which is probably the reason no-one actually seems to know what these terrorists are trying to achieve ..

10. Posted by Peter (Admin 5809 posts) 11y

Nice link btw applegirl! Some very good perspectives in there.

Bush : “Iraq is the latest battlefield in this war. … The commander in charge of coalition operations in Iraq, who is also senior commander at this base, General John Vines, put it well the other day. He said, "We either deal with terrorism and this extremism abroad, or we deal with it when it comes to us."

He speaks of ‘abroad’ as if it is a vague desert-land filled with heavily-bearded men and possibly camels. ‘Abroad’ in his speech seems to indicate a land of inferior people- less deserving of peace, prosperity and even life.