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31. Posted by wplemon35 (Full Member 45 posts) 11y

Quoting Gelli

I would also suggest reworking the section between Heidelberg and Berlin for logisitical (and cost) reasons. At a quick glance, i'd say Heidelberg - (Frankfurt - to change trains, but if you give yourself a few hours to look around, that addes another of your old ones to the list) - Regensberg - Munich - Salzburg - Vienna - (Ceske Budejovice, where you change for the bus to Ceske Krumlov. The train takes forever, the bus 30mins) - Prague (by bus, or back via C Bud) - Berlin would make more sense. Regensberg is the trickiest one to fit logically in (or works fine if you leave out Salzburg. In which case, H - Munich - Regensb - Vienna and as above), but easily doable.

you were saying something about cost...doesn't the Eurail pass cover this?

32. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

Yes and no.

As a European, i've never used Eurail so don't know all the specifics, but have some experience with them. Unless it has changed recently - and it might well have done - the Czech Republic is not included in Eurail (it never has been), so you have to pay the extra sections. Hence travelling the shortest distance through the Czech Republic is cheaper (hence why i suggest Wien - Ceske Bud., crossing via Gmund, and getting a bus Ceske K - Prague). Train travel in the Cz R isn't expensive, but it can all add up. You can buy discounted tickets using your Eurail to cross through non covered countries, and as Prague has many Eurail tourists, this is a well worn path.

The otehr point is on Eurail and your pass specifics. Remember - You DO NOT need to use your pass for every trip. Lots of people make this mistake. They get select passes and buy lots of extra days to cover their entire time, but then on some days only make very short journeys which themselves cost less than the cost of an extra day's travel. Short-ish journeys on non premium trains (as all jnys are) such as Regensberg-Munich or Munich-Salzburg may well be much cheaper if bought on the ground when your in Europe than buying an extra Eurail day, or getting the tickets abroad.

There is a railkey somewhere on line which helps you figure stuff like that out, and there's lots of places you can get rail prices (either somewhere like the Eurail site which charges extra, or for domestic-ish jnys, each countries individual web page) which as you have time, you can play with and see if it works out cheaper.

If i get somewhere more permenant (or get reunite with my laptop) before you make a decision and buy things, i can run some permutations and ideas for you to find the cheapest option / possibilities, but at the moment i don't have the ability.

33. Posted by wplemon35 (Full Member 45 posts) 11y

Oh ok, I understand what you are saying. Although it is hard to figure it all out because the schedules and such are not accessible until 60 days out.

The 'rail key' that I found is here, but it doesn't have enough spaces for all of my destinations

LINK >> http://www.railpass.com/new/

They also have the SelectPass that I didn't see before. You pick 5 adjacent countries and you have X days of travel.

I am currently working on the travel times between each city and trying to hammer out a better itinerary. I think that will help in figuring out the type of train pass I am going to need.

Gelli you have been a tremendous help. I can't thank you enough.

34. Posted by wplemon35 (Full Member 45 posts) 11y

Here is the Time Table that I came up with. There are some changes to the order of cities and a couple have been replaced. The general timeframes are going to stay the same.

Depart..............Arrive................Time............ Price
London............ Brussels Zuid.... 2hr 45min....$79 00
Brussels Zuid....Brugges............ 1hr.............. No Price Posted
Brugges............Rotterdam..........2hr 45min....No Price Posted
Rotterdam........ Amsterdam........1hr 15min....No Price Posted
Amsterdam...... Cologne............ 2hr 45min....€ 46 80
Cologne............Berlin................ 4hr 30min....€ 89 00
Berlin................Prague.............. 4hr 45min....€ 51 80
Prague..............Cesky Krumlov.. 3hr 45min....No Price Posted
Cesky Krumlov..Vienna.............. 5hr to 8hr....No Price Posted
Vienna..............Salzburg............3hr.............. € 41 80
Salzburg.......... Munich.............. 2hr..............€ 25 00
Munich............ Heidelberg........ 3hr 30min....€ 52 00
Heidelberg........Zurich.............. 4hr.............. € 67 40
Zurich.............. Luzern..............1hr.............. No Price Posted
Luzern..............Bern..................1hr 15min....No Price Posted
Bern..................Interlaken........ 1hr.............. No Price Posted
Interlaken........ Geneva..............3hr.............. No Price Posted
Geneva............ Lyon..................2hr.............. No Price Posted
Lyon................ Grenoble.......... 2hr.............. No Price Posted/Reservation Req'd
Grenbole..........Nice Ville.......... 5hr 45min....No Price Posted
Nice Ville..........Bayonne............11hr............ No Price Posted
Bayonne.......... Paris..................5hr.............. No Price Posted/Reservation Req'd
Paris................London..............2hr 45min....$79 00/Reservation Req'd

35. Posted by wplemon35 (Full Member 45 posts) 11y

Also this is purely by trains. It was done today with todays date and the time was the default 0340. I don't think that should affect the overall times that much.

The total travel time is 77 hours

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