I left this thread alone because it was a "discussion" piece... But, it is becoming very reminiscent of a previously posted thread concerning the stereotyping of different nationalities.
I don't believe that there is any one person who travels that hasn't found someone else annoying at some point or at some other destination. Try as we may not to, we all have some preconceived idea of what a particular nationality will be like. More often than not, we are proven wrong, and thankfully so.
I could generalize until hell froze over about Canadians, Americans, Germans, Japanese, Russians, Australians, Jamaicans, Cubans, and almost every other nationality - but it serves no purpose and I would be wrong in more ways than I would be right. Such comments border on bigotry, if it doesn't actually cross the line. A few annoying travelers from other countries do not define the whole of travelers from those countries. And, the most annoying travelers I have encountered have been from my own country - but they do not represent me.
My suggestion to you, Daniel - stay home. Then you won't have to worry about putting up with "theiving Isrealis", "no comment Americans", "loud, drunk Australians", "uptight Germans", or "unintelligent Spaniards". It will also save the rest of us from having to encounter a "bigoted Canadian".
Making such comments and generalizations hurt more people's feelings than it does in prompting genuine discussion. With the way this is progressing, I really want to close this thread. Instead, I will hold off for the time being.
My apologies to the Isrealis, Americans, Austrailians, Germans, Spaniards, and Canadians. I was using Daniel's own descriptions to make a point, not express my own personal opinion on each nationality.
If you're looking for the bad in people, you'll more than likely find it somewhere. Same goes for the good. Your choice.
Quite amazing that this thread produced such response or discussion as it were.
Isadora, much thanks for leaving it up. I was actually thinking it wouldn't stand for more then a minute. sehr cool. I truly beleive that if people got off their so called "PC soapbox" and truly spoke their minds then many problems could be much easily solved. Truth hurts, if everybody likes you then you dont really have much of a personality, meaning that you never take a stand on any type of hard hitting issues.
Cant we all loosen up, geez...we all have our flaws...its called being human. I stink like maple syrup and have a hockey stick stuck up my arse, and yes I am Canadian. At least the loud drunk Aussies and Kiwis can have a little good natured banter between them...I love them. To the Americans, I suppose I have no commment....
I truly beleive that if people got off their so called "PC soapbox" and truly spoke their minds then many problems could be much easily solved.
Trying to pass off flat-out generalizations as truth has nothing to do with getting off the PC Soapbox. In fact, it has everything to do with creating the kind of misunderstanding and hatred that sparks such things as war and genocide.
What good can possibly come of a conversation that goes: "Oh hello! I hear you're a Spaniard. You must be pretty stupid."
I'm afraid you have mixed up the meaning of "truth" with the meaning of "my own bigoted opinion".
If you have an ax to grind against Americans, fair enough. We all know the stereotypes and I'd agree with you on most, if not all. I just don't think this is the place to do it, as from what I can tell the people on this site (and I include all nationalities in this statement) are among the most open-minded and friendly people in the world; all with a common passion.
I'm sure Springer has a website somewhere if you want to go after those who have earned their reputation. If you want to argue about something that matters, let's talk Bertuzzi's reinstatement to the NHL, which is what I've been doing with my Vancouver friends over the last week.
I'm all for debate, I just think if you go back and read what you wrote, it's a little insulting.
if everybody likes you then you dont really have much of a personality, meaning that you never take a stand on any type of hard hitting issues.
And careful, you're starting to sound like one American you may have heard of.
Quoting Mikey B
'moscowmetr' is however a perfect example of why generalisations cannot hope to accurately sum up an entire nationality
This one cracked me up
I haven't been on here for ages, and since then I have been travelling a lot.
I am English, and tend to steer clear of other English backpackers, unless like me they're travelling alone. Embarassing. Often in big groups with their school friends and can be a bit cliquey. Plus, I don't really like going halfway across the globe and hearing the same accents, I may as well be in Surrey.
In defence of the Americans, I think the annoying ones with the bad reputation tend to either stay at home or go on expensive packages, the 16 European countries in 2 weeks sort of thing. You don't meet all that many proper independent travellers from the states, but those i've met have been great and not at all like the stereotypes (they're probably travelling to escape them). Apart from loud voices, but thats ok cos i have crap hearing.
Cant we all loosen up, geez...we all have our flaws...its called being human.
Didnt you just negate all your previous comments with this very insightful one.
You're absolutely right, we all have our flaws, its called being human...not "being Irish" or "being Australian" or whatever...
I understand what you're trying to debate. If I'm honest with myself, like lots of other people, I'm prone to an odd spate of nationality bashing.
"God almighty, could those <****ian>tourists get any louder!"
Those <******ans> should feck off home, coming over here, taking our jobs and our men!
I've no time for those ***ish - 10,000 yrs of oppression!!
But of course, I dont really mean a word of it.
I dont like to be stereotyped myself so I try not to do it to others.