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1. Posted by javawhz (Budding Member 9 posts) 11y

Hello, I'm planning a trip to UK, France and Italy in May/June '06. My plans are:

- Fly from LAX to London
- 3 nights in London, get around London by metro?/bus?
- To Paris via scenic route: Head to Dover, Ferry to Calais, TGV to Paris
- 2 nights in Paris, get around Paris by metro
- Fly from Paris to Rome
- 2 nights in Rome, rent car in Rome
- Drive to Pisa via coastal route (350 km)..3.5 hrs?
- 1 night in Pisa
- Drive from Pisa to Florence (100 km).. 1 hr?
- 1 night in Florence
- Head to Mugello circuit to catch the MotoGP race (main reason for my trip :p)
- Head back to Rome, fly back to Paris, back to London via Eurostar train (2.5 hrs) and fly back to LA

The thing is I'm going to have 14-15 days off work for this trip..I could possibly stretch it 2-3 more days if needed. Being that I want to see as many of the major attractions in each city as possible, am I being unrealistic with such a plan? Any suggestions or advice would be awesome.

Thanks,
Kevin

2. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

London - bus or walk

no scenic route London - Paris, all motorway. Fly or eurostar

Paris - walk

stay rome for longer - skip pisa

use train/bus in Italy - would safe you coming back to rome or use a company which would allow you to leave your car at their branch near Mugello.

fly to LAX or to London (if you have to) from the nearest airport

3. Posted by nickla (Respected Member 223 posts) 11y

I would say do not even attmept to drive in Rome itself. Is much esaier to get around by the metro and the buses which are quite extensive and also considerably cheaper than using a car. I saw all of the main sights of Rome in 2 days, so dont think u should have a problem. i really like it in Pisa and a day is plenty to see everything. Florence is pretty, but not great if ure not that into art - is very expensive to see stuff if ur just not that bothered by it! Have u considered flying from somewhere further north than Rome back to paris? Say Pisa - i flew to the UK from here for £20 inc taxes with thomson fly, bmibaby, ryanair, and easyjet all fly here as well i think. This way u can save urself having to backtrack to Rome.

nicola

4. Posted by javawhz (Budding Member 9 posts) 11y

massageUK, thanks for the info. Why don't you recommend the scenic route? Is the Dover-Calais ferry ride not worth it..just curious.

nick, flying ryanair seems like a great idea, they're pretty inexpensive too. Thanks for the info on that.

5. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

it's a motorway all the way.

unless you are after an 1h ferry ride - nothing special

6. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

Why don't you recommend the scenic route? Is the Dover-Calais ferry ride not worth it..just curious.

Time taken it's not worth the hassle anymore, due to the French. You mention you intend to take the TGV from Calais, meaning you intend to do it on pub trans, and it's becoming harder and harder. Eurostar is your best bet. You get approx the same amount of scenery on the English side as on the traditional route, and get to see the same amount of fields in North of France as the TGV and Eurostar use the same route, so all you miss is the ferry.

Connections in Calais are now pathetic, because the French have withdrawn them all (and have been cutting back for years) to force people on to the Eurostar - which in itself, the novelty makes it worth the trip. But if you do do it, there is now just one direct train a day from Calais Ville. It's a TGV, leaving (i think) about 12.15. To get there and get a ticket, you would need to be in Calais by 11.15. Which is 10.15 in England. Plus a 90min crossing, waiting time, getting to/from the port (they've recently stopped the complementary buses) and you have to do what i used to do quite often when i was still living in Oxford and be on the first train out of London to Dover, around 05.30, just to be certain you will get the train. It's doable, but Eurostar is a heck of allot easier!

7. Posted by javawhz (Budding Member 9 posts) 11y

Thanks guys, I will stick with Eurostar from LON to Paris :)

8. Posted by kenner85 (Budding Member 15 posts) 11y

- Fly from LAX to London
- 3 nights in London, get around London by: metro or walk
- To Paris via scenic route: been said, yeah go via train or air
- 2 nights in Paris, get around Paris by metro and walking: you will see all the major stuff if your there for 2 nights
- Fly from Paris to Rome
- 2 nights in Rome: prob been said but there is no need for a car in Rome, you might not want to but i walked everywhere and didnt miss anything.
- Drive to Pisa via coastal route (350 km)..3.5 hrs?: unless you really really want to go there, its not that good IMO
- 1 night in Pisa: no need to spend the night in Pisa
- Drive from Pisa to Florence (100 km).. 1 hr?
- 1 night in Florence: Very expensive and wouldnt go back, i really should have just gone for the day.
- Head to Mugello circuit to catch the MotoGP race (main reason for my trip :p)
- Head back to Rome, fly back to Paris, back to London via Eurostar train (2.5 hrs) and fly back to LA
GOOD LUCK with ya trip!:)

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