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1. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4192218.stm

Hurricane Katrina attacks - all town evacuates

2. Posted by Calcruzer (Moderator 1989 posts) 11y

Well, I'm afraid it won't be pretty. The latest news as reported by MSNBC and CNN is that "“If it stayed at this intensity (it's currently at 906 millibars pressure--the lower the pressure the stronger the hurricane), it would be one of the two or three strongest hurricanes to ever hit this country,” said Rappaport, of the National hurricane center.

The other three hurricanes that were this about this strong (the only ones to be Level 5) that hit the USA before were Hurricane Andrew (1992), which leveled parts of South Florida, killed 43 people and caused $31 billion in damage, the 1935 Labor Day hurricane that hit the Florida Keys and killed 600 people (the strongest hurricane to ever hit the USA) and Hurricane Camille, which devastated the Mississippi coast in 1969, killing 256.

The 1935 Hurricane was at 892 millibars pressure when it hit the Florida Keys--so this Hurricane Katrina is big and powerful. It's estimated winds are at 175 miles per hour (292 kilometers per hour).

The mayor of New Orleans has ordered a mandatory evacuation of the town of 500,000. One of the major problems officials worry about is that because most of New Orleans lies below sea level, there is a concern that some levees breaking could flood the city at a time when rains are at their worst. Let's hope for the best for the city.

3. Posted by Calcruzer (Moderator 1989 posts) 11y

Check out the story at http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9063708/ and look at the second picture--it basically shows New Orleans is one giant lake right now.

4. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

80 dead - marshall law introduced to prevent lootings.

no tourists there for a while

5. Posted by Calcruzer (Moderator 1989 posts) 11y

Well, it's closer to 185 confirmed deaths, and an expected 100 to 200 other unconfirmed deaths. Looting and sniping are occurring in the city from people who apparently have been without water and food for days--or for people who mentally have snapped. And there's a real need to evacuate the 20% of people who didn't leave the city when warned to earlier and now have no food, water, electricity, or sanitary facilities. This doesn't count the 80% of the population (approximately 400,000 people) who can't return to the city--and therefore have no homes, no jobs (meaning no source of income)--and who really haven't a clue where to go to at this time.

In the meantime, I see where the crisis has also created some bad blood between some Americans and Germans based upon comments from the German Environmental Minister that were a bit mistimed, claiming that American environmental policy caused Katrina and that America basically "had it coming".

Most Americans, I think, would rather hear more about humanitarian aid and relief efforts and a little, less "I told you so" at this point. The best estimates say that there are at least 50,000 people who haven't eaten for at least two to three days still trapped in the city. Federal and state government help is on the way, but has been arriving very slowly to this point.

6. Posted by ukmassage (Inactive 1052 posts) 11y

thousands dead.

how can a comment of some stupid politician in germany (who might happen to be right on something) spoil relations with peopple who's parents left that country hundreds years ago?

7. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Quoting MASSAGEUK

thousands dead.

That is not substantiated!! Making blanket statements, such as this one, just disseminates misinformation. The news reports that I have heard and read form all over the world, state what the Mayor of New Orleans said - that the death toll will probably be in the hundreds but COULD reach into the thousands. No one will be able to report things accurately until the waters recede. Yes, thousands may have lost their lives, but until that is known for sure, making such a statement is a disservice to everyone, including those who did not survive this disaster.

Quoting MASSAGEUK

how can a comment of some stupid politician in germany (who might happen to be right on something) spoil relations with peopple who's parents left that country hundreds years ago?

Quoting Calcruzer

In the meantime, I see where the crisis has also created some bad blood between some Americans and Germans based upon comments from the German Environmental Minister that were a bit mistimed, claiming that American environmental policy caused Katrina and that America basically "had it coming".

Most Americans, I think, would rather hear more about humanitarian aid and relief efforts and a little, less "I told you so" at this point. The best estimates say that there are at least 50,000 people who haven't eaten for at least two to three days still trapped in the city. Federal and state government help is on the way, but has been arriving very slowly to this point.

Where in Calcruzer's response does it mention relations with peopple who's parents left that country hundreds years ago? And, what does that have to do with the German EM's comments? I'm confused - but everyone is entitled to their opinion...

8. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Whatever the death toll, it looks like the aftermath is going to kill more people than the hurricane itself. It's almost unimaginable - stranded people, lack of supplies, people killing each other for what appears to be the sport of it... It's like a war zone, except there isn't a war going on - everyone's supposed to be on the same side. It's very surreal to watch; I can't imaine what it must be like to be living through all that.

9. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 11y

"It's almost unimaginable - stranded people, lack of supplies, people killing each other for what appears to be the sport of it... It's like a war zone,"

It IS imaginable - Now we can understand what Iraq must have been like when Baby Bush Bombed innocent civilians (and innocent non-civilians)

...and what it was like in India last xmas, and in Austria this summer, and in....well goes on and on and on

sorry had to say it! - jeff steps down from his soap box.

10. Posted by Calcruzer (Moderator 1989 posts) 11y

Please excuse me for making political comments in this travel forum.

It was not my intent to politicize the Hurrican Katrina issues. In the future I will confine my comments strictly to travel related information--and I would suggest others consider doing the same.

I hope you will excuse me, but I have friends in the New Orleans area who have refugees at this time--and have no idea when they will be able to return to their homes, or if they even have a home to return to. As a result, I guess I let my concerns and emotions get the better of me.

This forum is designed to bring people together in the enjoyment of travel. I was in Germany less than two weeks ago and had a fabulous time. I hope nobody will take my comments as a slap at either the wonderful German people or the country they live in.

Sincerely,