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21. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 11y

woah, woah, whats with all the personal attacks here

Hasty Generalizations on ones age (30), culture (American), or city they live in (Edinburgh), is just too much for my Old and Tired, Capiltalistic Ignorant Television-Fed mind, to handle before Ive eaten my Tea and Crumpets in the morning!

22. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

I will remind everyone once more "to play nice". And, again, reiterate that this discussion is in an open travel-related forum. That is, one where members and visitors to this site, alike, are looking for information related to such. This does not mean other commentary can not proceed here. But given the nature of this thread - which is already a politically charged topic - intelligent repartee is expected, not personal attacks aimed at any members or their countries.

23. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

Quoting Peter

And it is certainly true that the Tsunami was a far greater tragedy on the world scale, affecting not only more people, but also people with far less capacity to recover.

I was talking to a co-worker at lunch about New Orelans and the fundrasing being done to help the people affected. Now, I work in an agency where all our clients are non-profit organizations - so we know what's behind a fundraising campaign and, in emergencies, the people here are quick to reach into their own pockets. But here's what my colleague had to say:

"I feel terrible for the people who are affected. They're so poor, they have nothing. But I'm thinking twice about giving. This is the U.S. we're talking about here. All Bush has to do is cut the military budget. I can't believe Euopean countries (and Canada) are sending money to help. When the tsunami hit, the countries had no money - no insurance, no nothing. But the U.S. is a world superpower."

I wonder what the response would have been if the hurricane had hit Washington DC?

24. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Your co-worker is correct - a cut in the military budget could fund quite a bit of the relief efforts for the area. And, we are the Superpower. But, it should be kept in mind that, as much power as the President has, reallocating funds from whatever source does have to go through "channels". That alone takes time.. Once again, I am not defending anything, just a statement of fact. While that process takes place, the real victims are the ones who do not receive the aid they require.

Your co-worker may decide not to donate to the fundraising efforts. That is thier choice and should not be looked upon as uncaring. The concerns s/he voiced are real. But, the people in need at this moment really aren't thinking about where the relief funds come from - as long as they receive those things necessary for survival.

(And before someone asks - yes, I have contributed to the fundraising efforts.)

If it had happened to Washington DC - well...

25. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that the people there need help. The argument is that, with only so much money to go around, who do you give it to: the people dying from AIDS in Africa, or the people dying from dehydration in Louisianna? One is in the news all the time, the other is not. One is happening in some of the poorest countries in the world, the other is taking place in the richest country in the world. In both cases people are dying.

Where do we send our money? What moves us more?

26. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 11y

tough choice, but i dont understand... America has the money - its how they manage it that matters. Africa does not have the money they need.

27. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

Quoting tway

Where do we send our money? What moves us more?

You send it to the cause you feel needs it the most. Hands down!

Personally, I would choose Africa and hope the money is actually used to help the people in need. But, it is a personal choice. Being an American citizen, I have feel a certain loyalty (as it were) to contribute to the problem at hand here -at this time. But, if I resided in any other part of the world, I can't say I would make the same choice. It is one of those issues where you need to follow your heart and hope that someone in need somewhere will benefit.

28. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 11y

This all stems from my initial reaction to the hurricane being compared to last January's tsunami. If you compared aerial shots of both places, there's be more similarities than not. People in both places died, and those left behind need(ed) food, water, shelter, and some sort of plan to rebuild their lives.

I don't mean to turn this into a critique of who gives what where - there are needy people around the world, and no life is less important than another. But the tsunami killed hundreds of thousands in countries with no money, no resources, no backup plan, and no warning. The hurricane killed thousands in a country abundant in money, resources, emergecy preparedness, and days' worth of warning. There's no comparison on that scale.

The people there need help - any help - and now. But let's not pretend this is a catastophe of third-world proportions.

29. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 11y

Wow, as an American who is not exactly in the George Bush fan club, but as an American none-the-less, I feel I need to stay out of this one. Suffice it to say that personal attacks during times such as these sickens me. Suffering is suffering and if you can help and feel compelled, no matter where, please do.

30. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 11y

My sentiments, actually John!