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1. Posted by meekychunky (Full Member 80 posts) 11y

Ive been looking at rucksacks and found that some have daypacks that attach to them. My question is ...

Should i buy a rucksack with a daypack or is it possible to carry both ... or have you any comments on daypacks, are they needed or is a money belt enough?

Thanks in advance
Monkee

2. Posted by GregW (Travel Guru 2635 posts) 11y

I think a day pack is a good idea, but you don't need one that attaches to your main pack. I have one that attaches to my main pack, and since dettaching on the first day I have it, it has not reattached since.

You are much better off with a day pack that you can fold up and put into your main pack. The day pack doesn't need to be big - just large enough to carry a bottle of water, a box lunch, a couple extra layers of clothes (rain jacket, sweater / jumper) and your camera.

When travelling with your main pack, put the day pack (empty) in your main pack.

Greg

3. Posted by angela_ (Respected Member 1732 posts) 11y

I agree with Greg. I just brought a pretty big shoulder bag with me on my trip, that way I didn't stand out as a tourist quite as much as if I had a big backpack. I also never trust having a backpack on my back while travelling and I don't like having it on my front..

4. Posted by Sander (Moderator 4835 posts) 11y

Quoting GregW

I think a day pack is a good idea, but you don't need one that attaches to your main pack. I have one that attaches to my main pack, and since dettaching on the first day I have it, it has not reattached since.

Ditto.
Mostly because the daypack was always full anyway, and I'm way more balanced carrying that on my chest and the large backpack on my back then I'd have been if the daypack was attached to the large backpack. (It took a day or two to get used to wearing a second backpack like that, but there's a good reason you see nearly all backpackers walking around like that - it's definitely the way to go.)

5. Posted by AlexT (Respected Member 245 posts) 11y

Definately agree with Sander!

6. Posted by meekychunky (Full Member 80 posts) 11y

Thanks for the advice peeps!!

So .. daypacks ... arent they a little awkward to wear on the front?

7. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y

I'm actually a teeeny bit sorry that I went for a pack with a zip-on day pack. The day-pack is a bit on the small side. As I probably will spend most of my time wearing it on front, I'm now thinking I might have been better off getting a regular backpack and bringing along one my bigger daypacks.

I suppose it depends on what you plan to do on your trip, but I would have to have a daypack for the times when you leave your backpack in a hostel or something, but still need something to carry your essentials. ;)

8. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

If you go down the 2 different "real" bag road, i`d recommend getting a seperate daypack, as many of the zip on-off ones aren`t particularly good or well designed. And if you use a proper daypack, you will be wearig that thing ALOT more than your main bag, so it should be well designed.

I agree about using a fold up bag though, providing you don`t plan to carry loads in it. For me, my main bag is really a daysack anyway, and for day trips etc i have one of those canvas sports bag type things (that are like a square flat fabric thingy a bit larger than A4 size when empty, and which are shut with drawstrings), which folds up small into my main bag when not being used. The drawstrings have the advantage that it`s near impossible to open the bag when i`m wearing it (without using a kinife...) without me knowing, as the open/close straps are also around me, and the way i wear it, opening it even a quarter of the way means i get strangled, so i obviously notice...

Its big enough for guide book, camera, loo roll, water bottle and MP3 player, plus a bit of food etc which is all you really need to carry (a waterproof would go in it as well, but i don`t carry one). if i put more in it, it gets uncomfortable which is exactly what i want - it stops me carrying unneccessary cr*p around. It can also then be used as a shopping bag, or short term extra capacity if required.

HTH

9. Posted by meekychunky (Full Member 80 posts) 11y

Thanks for the advice folks!!!

Can i also ask about money belts. Does anybody use them, and is it the best way to carry your cash?

10. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 11y

Can i also ask about money belts. Does anybody use them, and is it the best way to carry your cash?

Yes, and if used properly, yes.

I use a very "low tech" one - i.e. it has a buckle attachment, and i can also make another knot out of the extra string. I have heard of more than one occurrence of somebody with a buckle attachment having it stolen, because the buckles all fall in the same place and are reletively easy to undo by a thief. Mine really can`t be taken off without me knowing about it (unless i`mn unconscious...)

Also, by properly, i mean that you should keep your money and cards in it, BUT, also have a wallet for everyday use, and keep your passport out of it in areas where you may need it. Virtually everybody that has their money belt stolen or problems, does something really stupid like getting their monety pout of it in broad daylight. If you`ve got a hidden belt, keep it hidden. If you need to get stuff out, do it in a toilet cubicle or somewhere you can`t be seen.

I have a money belt (as above - but also i wear it around the back instead of the normal front) where i keep the vast majority of my cash and credit cards. I have a (small) seperate wallet with one card and cash for the day, plus at least one hidden chunk of cash in my bags (normally a couple of 50 or 100usd bills) for real emergencies. In very touristy places, i also keep an obvious and fake wallet with a little cash, plus assorted cr*p that makes it look used, in the home that that will be taken instead of my real one.

Also, don`t do what lots of people do, and when you go to sleep in a hostel etc, leave your wallett and money belt by your bed (i`ve met 4 or 5 people this trip alone who have lost it out of a hostel in that way, although admittedly alcohol possibly played roles in all. And several people in the past that have had their entire bag/daysack taken from odd places whilst they slept) - either wear it in bed under pyjamas, or if you use a sheet sleeping bag (which is sealed), chuck it in the bottom by your feet so it can`t easily be gotten.

Most of that sounds like paranoia, but it prevents major panics, and gives you a contingency (i had my wallet taken earlier this trip, and caused no real life problems or change of plans because i had enough backups - only one was trting to get replacement cards out to me)