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231. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

I think we need a recap (or maybe we don't) on what your point is . I mean this in a nice way, you are saying that the entire Islamic religion is associated with Terrorism?

If so, you are wrong - no question about it.

Just exercising my democratic right to play Sam Spade against Islam's Joel Cairo

232. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

What is this "Democratic Right" you speak of?

233. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

I think we need a recap (or maybe we don't) on what your point is . I mean this in a nice way, you are saying that the entire Islamic religion is associated with Terrorism?

If so, you are wrong - no question about it.

Taqiyya or just plain teflon-coating?

The accurate expression should have been 'no question and don't question'.

In July 2003 Afghanistan's Supreme Court issued the death penalty for blasphemy to the editor of a Kabul newspaper for asking in an editorial the question ‘Why, after 1,400 years of Islam, is there no sign of progress or development in Muslim society?’.
In 2000 liberal Iranian shia cleric Hassan Yousefi-Eshkavari was arrested for apostasy and sentenced to death. His crime was to recommend that the wearing of the veil should be optional and that all Islamic principles related to social issues be reviewed and brought into line with modern society.

If terrorising and murdering the faithful is de rigeur within Islam, what chance did Theo van Gogh have?

Perhaps you could rationalise the above examples into a 21st century context, then move onto reconciling death fatwas, calls to jihad (holy war) and riots calling for the heads of Danish cartoonists.

234. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Dear Overloards,
Any chance you can blast this thread to where it belongs i.e. in the waste bin.
It has brought out some reasnable discussion, but has become stale and seems to be rambling on the same two chords.
Jase

235. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

I have to agree on this one - knowing this reply will be deleted...

This thread has gone from debate to repetitive pontification and enlightening no one. Either let's let it die or close it to comment all together. I understand the need to make points, but they have been made and nothing more has been added.

Time to call it a day here.

Now, about them Packers and Bears and Vikings....

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240. Posted by wotthefiqh (Inactive 1447 posts) 10y

Quoting Jase007

Dear Overloards,
Any chance you can blast this thread to where it belongs i.e. in the waste bin.
It has brought out some reasnable discussion, but has become stale and seems to be rambling on the same two chords.
Jase

I find the suggestion to delete this thread morally and culturally repugnant,and the so-called reason for doing so intellectually bankrupt and an insult to my intelligence.
If the thread had become racist, had incited any form of violence or been filled with swearwords, this kind of response would be at least understandable, but to suggest that it be deleted because it is 'rambling on' in someone's opinion is a load of bollocks.
If I had a personal agenda I could easily find any number of threads in TP which are 'rambling on' (e.g. Jase and Mikey one-liner thread where Jase007 said 'rule 1 - no moderators to interfer', and request that they be deleted to conform to my own personal belief system.
The very bedrock of democracy is freedom of expression, without which every other right (religious belief or non-belief, political persuasion, sexual orientation etc, etc ) becomes an unattainable dream.
If you don't like the thread, don't read it!!!
What next for deletion?

P.S. I was hoping that Brendan would reply with such a rational explanation that I would be 'hoisted by my own Plutarch'.

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