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61. Posted by cikusang (Respected Member 1361 posts) 10y

Yes I do. When one is a part of a society they are responsible for it. Every action you take effects and plays a role in that society. Likewise every action you do not take (ex. not voting) effects and plays a role in that society.

Wait till I get somebody who is proficient in Buddhism (I am not a Buddhist) because such question could be easily answered by referring to the teaching of Buddhism (but to translate from either Sanskrit or Mandarin would be a huge task and proved to be elusive to have this concept about life circle explained precisely, translation could be so convulated that it's easy for people to accidentally violate it). Let me dig the oceans of my e-collection of philosophical books... I do remember some of the past literati and in the mostly translated works had this related...is it Sophocles? Torquato Tasso? Leo Tolstoy? Victor Hugo? Plato?...phew

Hope things would turn up to be extravagant...

62. Posted by cikusang (Respected Member 1361 posts) 10y

Hope things would turn up to be extravagant...

Sorry for the text I've wrongly typed. It should be:"Hope things would not turn up to be extravagant".

63. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 10y

Okay, I'm back now the sun has risen again in the West. Can I just say this after reading the numerous posts that have come in since I was last here. This is such a great thing that the kind people at TP have put together (and Al Gore since he apparently invented the Internet ). To be able to hear points of view from Malaysia, Italy, Canada, Netherlands, etc.; it beats the shit out of beating my head against a wall with my friends here; many of whom can only see one point of view - the wrong one .

64. Posted by danalasta (Travel Guru 519 posts) 10y

Quoting cikusang

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Dana, is the film mentioned above appeared to be one of the showings during the Singapore Films Festival 2005? A friend who returned after the occasion admitted there's a wide range of films (some are documentaries without any scenes censoured)from Middle-East to choose from. Some of the films proved to being quite 'psychotic' to some of the audiences that they addressed their 'uneasiness' after the showings.

yes, you're right....it was shown during the spore films festival...it is now showing in several cities in the US, i believe...and elsewhere...

Depends on how people view the film...it is a grim film..."Paradise Now,” winner of three awards at the Berlin Film Festival, including the Amnesty International Film Prize, deals with heavy, difficult issues. But with the exception of those didactic moments, it moves quickly. Amazingly, in addition to its success in creating suspense and debating issues, it is—I know this is hard to believe—not without some very effective humour.

There may be nothing the least bit funny about what is arguably the most hopeless political conflict on the planet, but that doesn’t stop the characters from being as comically human as the rest of us.

dana

65. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Good morning from the west coast.

Quoting john7buck

This is such a great thing... To be able to hear points of view from Malaysia, Italy, Canada, Netherlands, etc...

I agree, to be able to hear idea's and thoughts from around the world is one of the great things happening in the world today. More often than not we surround ourselves (on purpose or not) with people with the same views and ideologies.

Quoting Q_Zhang

Well what are you or we specifically going to do about it?

I agree with Sam's answer. Let's start with ourselves, make changes in our lives that benefit others. We can't change and/or fix everything at once. But as individuals we can find issues most important to us and start there.

I think once it is realised that every decision we make has some effect on the world people can start making better choices. We don't need to start a cabal to effect change but we can work with local groups.

Some ideas that I think would help:

  • Work with not-for-profit groups
  • Carpool, buses, bicycle, walk
  • A healthy life-style - helps you and everyone else
  • Get active in your local & national politics

just a couple idea's - what are some others?

66. Posted by danalasta (Travel Guru 519 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

Some ideas that I think would help:

  • Work with not-for-profit groups
  • Carpool, buses, bicycle, walk
  • A healthy life-style - helps you and everyone else
  • Get active in your local & national politics

just a couple idea's - what are some others?

...mobilise support for the immediate phase-out of the 103 nuclear power plants that are currently operating in the United States... and emphasize safe, renewable energy alternatives, such as solar and wind power...which would not invite terrorism.

hey, my two cents worth!!!

dana

67. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Here in lies the problem with that. We can not successfuly implement renewable power at our current rate of consumption. I agree with taking out nuclear power, but first we need to cut back on our power use.

Even if we built wind towers, tide turbines, solar array's, and geothermal ports in all of the available locations around the planet with our exponential rate of growth and consumption it wouldn't sustain.

First I think we need to create gated communities for the super rich and starve the 5.5 billion poor. This will allow green energy to take a proper foot hold.

68. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

"We love death. The US loves life. That's the big difference between us"

Osama Bin Laden

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70. Posted by applegirl (Full Member 144 posts) 10y

To add to Brendan + danalastas list of ideas.... :)

- Buy Fair Trade and organic - ALWAYS of often.

- Freecycle! The Freecycle Network™ is made up of many individual groups across the globe. It's a grassroots movement of people who are giving (& getting) stuff for free in their own towns. Each local group is run by a local volunteer moderator (them's good people). Membership is free. Link here: http://www.freecycle.org/

- or give away your unwanted stuff to charities.

- Recycle as much as you can, if there isn't any recycle scheme in your local area talk to your council/local politician and make them set up one.

- Save energy!
(which btw means not flying that often!!! - very tricky one for all of us who loves to travel around the world! Choose the train if possible, take the bus (instead of your own car) as often as is possible. Or cycle. Or walk.
Use low energy lamps. Etc

- Support/donate money to an organisation such as Amnesty, The Red Cross etc regulary

- Do not invest in the stock market.
As this is ALWAYS unethical, because it means that you are sitting on your arse when someone else is doing all the hard work (the worker/s can't access the amount of money the shareholders can) this is not fair at all, is it?) It adds and encourage the gap between poor and rich.

- Turn your back on patriotism folks - this is NOT to say that you can't be enormously proud and grateful for having grown up in the area/country you come from. Of course you can! - but on the other hand it doesn't mean that where you come from is better than anywhere else. In my humble opinion... patriotism just creates a 'we against them' feeling at the end of the day. And despite cultural, religious and so on differences we're really all the same.

(Yes the last two points might come across as controversial, but they're my two pennys worth )

Have a great weekend everyone!

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