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81. Posted by mally (Respected Member 199 posts) 10y

You all have a point - but why can't people just be god-lings and go into any house of god. I have. It has never made me change my religion that being (i only believe in god) after all we are suppose to have free choice. I don't want to be forced into anything.
If god made the world in 6 days where do you think he could be now after millions of years?

82. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

what do you mean "god-lings"?

83. Posted by applegirl (Full Member 144 posts) 10y

Quoting igetlost

also without the stock market on which the entire world structure is dependent, the world would decend into global recession,war and famine.following which pandemic disease would by unleased.

What??
Are you saying that without a stock market we would get pandemic diseases??

At the moment we do have a stock market and we ALSO have plenty of wars going on... and oh, this summer about 10 million people in Africa were starving to death + there's this catastrophe in Zimbabwe where millions are starving!
35.000 children are dying EVERY DAY because of poverty

We have plenty of food for everyone in this world- but to keep prices up crops are being destroyed! We live in a world where it's quite obvious that MONEY is much more important than human beings - that explains the 'logic' of destroying food instead of making sure everyone has got food. And that might also explain why you hold the view that the entire world is resting on the stock market.

Instead of stock market think CO-OP! :)

The biggest energy source on the earth is solar energy - that's something that would definitely work! Don't ask me why it's not that much talked about though...?

84. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

If we were to abandon the stock exchanges there would be problems. In the short term. Things would recover and evolve. It just comes back to the status quo. People are frightened by the unknown. If they have no knowledge of a situation in their brain to refer to they get scared, and panic.

Far easier to stay with what you know.

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86. Posted by danalasta (Travel Guru 519 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

On top of that, the idea about biofuel and ethonal blended gasoline is insane. So with a global population of over six billion, the majority of which are in abject poverty, let us use up perfectly good land, to grow crops which instead of being eaten will be processed into fuel for our cars.

Perhaps I don't have the full concept of the process, but from what I gather it seems bonkers.. totally nuts!

I point I was trying to make was renewable energy...not alternatives...

let us not overlook the fact that it is not the poverty stricken nations are big fuel consumers or waste energy...is there a need for gas guzzling cars ( when the object is to transport u from one point to the next )...or over-consumption ( or should I say wastage?)of food (which leads to obesity). I need not mention the nations which indulge in this....

Gandhi said...the world has enough for everyone's needs; not for everyone's greed...

87. Posted by danalasta (Travel Guru 519 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

...let us use up perfectly good land, to grow crops which instead of being eaten will be processed into fuel for our cars.

Can anyone give statistics to back up this: how many million hectares are devoted to the cultivation of fodder for animals that eventually end up in slaughter houses to satitiate the carnivore in us?

dana

88. Posted by applegirl (Full Member 144 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

People are frightened by the unknown. If they have no knowledge of a situation in their brain to refer to they get scared, and panic.

Far easier to stay with what you know.

I know what you mean, it is very true and fear is the root of a lot (most?) of violence, war, racism and so on.

But if we were completely dominated by our fears we wouldn't have gotten very far, so it also has to be said that as much as fear is in our nature so is curiosity of exploring the unknown and new.

To abandon the idea of the stock market and replace it with something more fair, like co-ops hasn't got to do so much with a fear for the unknow as it's got to do with replacing an unfair system with a fair one.
So in that case it's a fear of sharing the excess with people who have nothing.

89. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 10y

Quoting applegirl

To abandon the idea of the stock market and replace it with something more fair, like co-ops hasn't got to do so much with a fear for the unknow as it's got to do with replacing an unfair system with a fair one.
So in that case it's a fear of sharing the excess with people who have nothing.

I don't think it has to do with fear. I think it has to do with social systems that fit human nature. A recent article in the University of Toronto magazine talked about research in to what makes people "happy". One of the conclusions was that people judged their level of contentment relative to the achievements of those around them. That is, people are by nature, competitive. It has also been said that communism failed because it didn't satisfy the human need to gain wealth and top others. That statement isn't complete, but it is a good part of it I think. Whether it is fair or not, the stockmarket exists because people support it. Co-op's can work, but only if people support it.

90. Posted by cikusang (Respected Member 1361 posts) 10y

That is, people are by nature, competitive.

Allow me to extend the statement: every living thing possesses 'desire' by nature and that's the exact point where all sorts of differences embarked.

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