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Brendan's Daily Diatribe: Part Three

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11. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

The conflict comes when these "rights" clash. From what I can tell you are saying that you are in the "middle" and consider everyone else not in the middle wrong? That doesn't make any sense. I'll stop there and perhaps you could clarify?

Okay, I don't mean to take this too far off the topic, but here's a guestion for you...

We have constitutional rights in the US - as do most of the nations in the world (doesn't mean they are followed). But, what really contitutes a "right" over and above those put in place by forefathers and/or politicians? (Should this be another diatribe question? )

12. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

Now beerman, I agree with much of what you have to say but not all. It seems you are saying that people shouldn't tell others what to do or how to do it. Saying that they are right and the others are wrong.

But sounds to me like you are saying jsut that. That they are wrong by saying they are right and you are wrong and you are saying you are right? Sounds like a pardox

Allow me to clarify.....
Think what you wish, worship what you wish, talk about what you wish. Don't force me to live by your standards, worship your God, think as you think. Don't brand me as a heretic or Anti-anything because I don't agree with you. I'm allowing you to live your life as you wish without forcing my beliefs on you, do me the same courtesy. Or die, take your pick heathen....(kidding)

Clear? No? OK, for example, you're a vegan. I'm a meateater. Do I force you to eat meat? Do I call you an Anti-Canadian heretic weenie because of it? No, I don't interfere with your dining choices. Nor should you interfere when I sink my teeth into a delicately rare rib-eye steak smothered in onions and mushrooms. Sorry.

Basically, people should mind their own damn businesses and quit snooping around for superiority dirt on each other.

Next?

13. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting beerman

No, I don't interfere with your dining choices. Nor should you interfere when I sink my teeth into a delicately rare rib-eye steak smothered in onions and mushrooms.

I was with you right up until the mushroom part.

14. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting tway

Quoting beerman

No, I don't interfere with your dining choices. Nor should you interfere when I sink my teeth into a delicately rare rib-eye steak smothered in onions and mushrooms.

I was with you right up until the mushroom part.

Yup, had me too - until the mushroom part - don't care for mushrooms - personal taste thing...

Everyone has their own rights. Everyone should have their own beliefs, as long as they do no harm. So, at some point there has to come a common ground - or we might as well just kiss our own and everyone else's ass good-bye. Whatever happened to 'Do no harm to our fellow man?" An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth is bullshit in my opinion. But, once again, I digress...

Isa runs away quickly...

15. Posted by igetlost (Full Member 89 posts) 10y

i'm confused!?!?!?
why oh why does isadora refer to herself in the fictional 3rd person and why are there no restaurants open now as i have a relentless craving for beef in a mushroom sauce........
that was chanterelle mushrooms you were talking about?......
i feel like homer......Mmmmmm...

16. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Ok point taken about you live yourlife and I'll live mine. But that doesn't work. Because we live in a society of co-operation. You depend on people to live and people depend on you (in a round about way).

Everything you do effects me, everything I do effects you. To say "leave me alone and I will leave you alone" sounds very defeatist. Meaning you don't see a time of co-operation and global... for lack of a better term, togetherness?

Your example is a good one, let's say I am a herbivore and you sir are a carnivore. We live our seperate lives oblivious to each other, I do my thing you do yours. But the very nature of that doesn't work. Everyone is always trying to influence everyone else.

One point would be the very way you worded your description of eating cow. In such a way to influence mine and others opinions. That is the nature of the beast (society, not the cow).

For my part, I don't "force" my views on anyone. But I believe that eating meat is not necassary, and certainly dairy should be cut from everyone's diet. Am I going to force people into it? There is no way, unless I was King of Canada - but even then my influence would be limited at best. What I can do is write about my opinions and put out facts that I have learned so people can make their own decisions.

I think that is what most people are doing. They see that the world could be a better place than it is right now. They have some idea's which they think would add to it in a postive manner. I think that is great. If more people actaully gave a damn about making things better (for everyone not themselves)... I think things would in fact be better.

So in the end Beerman, I do know what you are saying, you don't want people force feeding you the daily wrongs and rights, you don't want to be told what to do, when to do it, or how. Nor do I. But I don't see a way around it. And I don't see a solution.

Although I read in the newspaper today at work that people who practive trancendental meditation on a regular basis have more "grey matter" and a higher cognitive abilities (to a degree... C not F). So perhaps we should all do that.

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Isadora, on your point about what constitutes "right" apart from the writers of law... everything does. "Right" has nothing to do with law and everything to do with personal ideals. Take copyright, it is clearly in the written law that to infringe on copyright is illegal, however millions of people around the world burn, rip, hack, crack, copy, paste, print, etc. In their own minds right is completely different than the makers of law.

17. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

....Transcend the phyiscal world.....

I like it! I don't know what it means, but I like it!

18. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 10y

Quoting james

Quoting Brendan

....Transcend the phyiscal world.....

I like it! I don't know what it means, but I like it!

pssssst....it's what happens when you do the drinky drinky, smokey smokey, thingy.......

19. Posted by FionaNZ (Respected Member 903 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

For my part, I don't "force" my views on anyone. But I believe that eating meat is not necassary, and certainly dairy should be cut from everyone's diet. Am I going to force people into it? There is no way, unless I was King of Canada - but even then my influence would be limited at best. What I can do is write about my opinions and put out facts that I have learned so people can make their own decisions.

Your opinion sounds pretty "forceful" to me Brenda(n) with all those,
not necessary; certainly should be cuts & put out the facts... who the hell wants to learn about the life & times of a lentil or 10 ways with tofu for that matter:)

20. Posted by FionaNZ (Respected Member 903 posts) 10y

Quoting Q_Zhang

Quoting james

Quoting Brendan

....Transcend the phyiscal world.....

I like it! I don't know what it means, but I like it!

pssssst....it's what happens when you do the drinky drinky, smokey smokey, thingy.......

Crikey, is that what happens to me & here I was thinking I was just the other form of pssssst

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