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1. Posted by Rach-a (Respected Member 368 posts) 12y

I am just wondering if anyone out there can give me their opinions on genetically modified food. I wasn't that well aware of it before now but am finding out about it and totally disagree with it

Only companies that profit from this are saying it is safe for us. Scientists disagree. Farmers don't know what they have in their crops and the future of sustainable agriculture is under threat. Also, I believe it is a whole bunch of money going to waste - I think we do not need GM foods and I really dont want them. I don't normally bother campaigning against anything but I am doing so now. I am also interested in other parts of the planet (late new years resolution or the hippie in me I am not sure) ;)

However if anyone is interested in stopping it then visit www.foei.org the international friends of the earth website. Has anyone got any opinions on this positive or negative - angry, not bothered I would be really interested if so

2. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 12y

I'm not a big fan of the idea, and can see it going horribly wrong at some point in the future, but I do understand the arguments being used for them and accept that there is at least a potential need for the technology either now or somewhere in the not too distant future. But i'm basically on the fence at this point.

3. Posted by bluewaav (Inactive 627 posts) 12y

I don't know too much about it except that here in Canada companies now must label whether their food is genetically modified or not. At least they are on the way to making that happen. There are organic food stores popping up like mushrooms in my city. That end of the business is booming. There are things in gorcery stores like Omega-3 eggs, also, which is a completely organic brand of eggs, and much more humane for the hens that lay them. I would need more info, though, to form an opinion about it.

4. Posted by IMonaghan (Respected Member 431 posts) 12y

whenever we (humanity) go and screw with the natural order, bad things seem to happen to us. :e.g. Feeding cows(vegetarians) other cow parts produced "mad cow disease", feeding chickens in a similar fashion produced the "chicked flu". I think logically that the next step is "mad carrot disease" or something of the like.

I know it sounds like a joke, but I think we are going to find that genetically altering things without having a little stronger grasp on the effects of genetics is going to wind up being a bad thing. Similar to pesticides(DD7) and some types of fertilizers a decade ago. A couple years from now I am guessing that mother nature is going to slap us silly and we'll find out that 100 pound heads of lettuce cause cancer or something like that.

I don't know if I am to the point where I would crusade against these products, I just try to avoid eating them where I can... and live in blissfull ignorance while eating at my favorite resteraunts.

5. Posted by Tazza (Full Member 57 posts) 12y

It's not just our planet that GM foods are bad for, but it's also bad for us- the consumers. Things that are natural and organic often just taste better and out bodies don't need to deal with emulsifiers and other weird things that I don't think we're really meant to eat a whole heap of!

Yes, I'm quite concerned too. :(

6. Posted by tingo (Full Member 94 posts) 12y

I don't think it should be allowed as long as it's not 100% proven that it doesn't imply any risk to your health.
Anyway, in some cases it would be good to have GM food: for example for third world countries one could make a vegetables that needs less water or don't need to be sprayed with insecticides. This could be a really good advantage.
I'm just not convinced that making vegetables "better" by modifying them doesn't introduce any new bad things...

7. Posted by pawl (Budding Member 15 posts) 12y

no, we don't need them. there's enough food on the planet to feed all six billion of us. monsanto, one of the biggest GM companies, are the same people who made agent orange that was used in vietnam.

8. Posted by travelover (Respected Member 494 posts) 12y

This is coming from a science student who has taken environmental ethics classes. I TOTALLY agree with you guys and the opposition regarding genetically engineered foods. The animal protein we get is raised under such sketchy terms that aren't good for us (as IMonaghan mentionned "mad cow disease" and others) nor are they good for the animals and stir the pot in the animal rights issue. The issue extends much further (as you all know).

After so many years of eating engineered foods, we see organic foods as too small, or not colourful enough, or too deformed. Strawberries are actually smaller than those we buy from grocery stores. Tomatoes aren't as round nor as red. I could be wrong about the fruits and veggies that grow elsewhere but this is what it's like in North America.

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I truly believe that the incline in cancer is due to what we eat. The effects of all those years of modifying and "purifying" our foods are beginning to show in today's health concerns. And although organic food companies are beginning to appear, the prices are controlled so that organic foods are considerably more expensive than engineered foods. I don't know if that's what it's like where you guys are from but that's what it's like in Montreal. GM is a powerful company. Organic food is like David to GM's Golliath. Go David!

9. Posted by Quercus (Full Member 76 posts) 12y

I'm also a science student, and would like to add some other problems with GM foods.

Firstly, they can develop crops that are resistant to herbicides, so that they massively overspray the crops to kill weeds, leaving the consumer with herbicide-soaked foods.
Secondly, they often engineer terminator-genes into the crop so that they don't produce seed and the farmer has to buy more seeds for next season.
Thirdly, the problem with reduced nutrition is not just a consequence of GM foods. Since WWII crops have been selectively bred to be beautiful and transport well (eg bright red tomatoes that don't 'splat' easily) at the expense of nutrition, taste and variety. There are so many old varieties (called heritage varieties) of vegetables that were grown before the war but we no longer see. Like chocolate capsicums, moon and stars watermelon and crookneck squash. If you're interested in growing them I know that in Australia and the US there are seed-saving organisations encouraging home gardeners to bring them back.

Viva la revolution! Lis.

10. Posted by KitCat (Full Member 65 posts) 12y

I did a university project on the topic a few years back, and I do agree that some things are not meant to be tempered with. However careful scientists claims to be, somewhere along the line it is going to go wrong, either increase the rate of unforeseen mutations or certain combination of genes can have unknown effect on either human or other animals which can result in more new diseases although some of the genetic modification that we have experience on might have some advantages, as in more yield better quality and all that, but I believe it is nothing that a bit love and care on the farmers part can't improve on. As one of the main concern, that GM crops might take over the non GM crops and eventually we might lose some of the original species. I think as the world is more aware of GM, my guess is that it will only flourish in the line of mass production as in the cheap food line (enconomy brand as such). Of course there is always the arguement that if we can produce food at a cheap cost which means more food for everyone (and perhaps help the third world) but I guess that is definitely one thing that the companies who produce GM food are not interested.

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