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11. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

For everyone to stop eating eggs. I would even accept that to be my final gift ever.

As a famous politician in Australia once said, "Please explain!"

12. Posted by Rraven (Travel Guru 5924 posts) 10y

Quoting james

Quoting Brendan

For everyone to stop eating eggs. I would even accept that to be my final gift ever.

As a famous politician in Australia once said, "Please explain!"

it could be the farting thing !?!?! two of my friends eat fried eggs in the morning and then spend the rest of the day letting us know.... its rotton !

13. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting james

Quoting Brendan

For everyone to stop eating eggs. I would even accept that to be my final gift ever.

As a famous politician in Australia once said, "Please explain!"

It has to do with the inhuman treatment of laying hens and that the egg is an un-necessary food source. But, that's just the synopsis.

14. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Isa, has basically got it.

15. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Say B, what if it's one of your own chickens? If it was one of ours, it would have a life of luxury like our cats. It would lay much healthier, more robust eggs, and just have a better life in general.

Not trying to start an arguement---just a question.

16. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

It has to do with the inhuman treatment of laying hens and that the egg is an un-necessary food source. But, that's just the synopsis.

I eat only free range eggs and free range chickens (tastes better also btw). Is there a problem with them also. Also, not sure if 'inhuman' treatment is a bad thing for chickens - considering they're not human after all. I think 'inchicken' treatment would be a better term ;)

17. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

yeah I think having your own chicken is great and having some eggs. Freerange is okay... the definition of freerange by market standards means the animal "needs access to outside"... this can have a HUGE variety of interpretations. Usually still a very small cage, outside.

The fact that people are starting with free range at least it shows people are putting some thought into what they eat, and that is encouraging.

It isn't the act of eating the egg that bothers me, and I am perfectly aware that humans are omnivores. But this entire process of distancing ourselves from the animals life disgusts me. I think Factory Farming is the very heart of the problem, and far too many people don't give a flying you know what.

Thanks for bringing that point up Peter. The term "humane" treatment is an interesting one. To be humane is to show benevolance towards life. Cutting off the beaks of chickens and butting thousands of them in battery cages, is not humane.

They are not humans, so why be humane? I guess that stems from the fact many people consider human life to be more precious than theh life of an animal or plant even. I am not saying "don't cut down that tree to save that person"... I just like people to think about their actions. Think about that egg, think about that burger.

And for Hien, Isa, and Summer. Yes I eat plants and that kill's life as well. But again my point is not to stop killing - that can not be done - but stop if only to look around, and think. There is more to life than your next meal.

18. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 10y

Fair points Brendan. I might have to follow up on those free range brands I buy to make sure they really are ok ;) I was really just kidding on the 'humane' comment btw. But I don't think that chickens have the same standards as humans - ie, it may be inhumane to make someone grovel in the dirt for their food, but that would usually be ok for a chicken. That doesn't mean they deserve to be tortured and abused by us. Hence, maybe a term 'Chickane' would describe the standards chickens should be able to enjoy It's just a failing of the english language though, nothing to be done about it really..

Also, I do actually have a pretty good idea what had to happen to a chicken to get on my dinner plate. As someone who has personally killed animals for a snack before and seen plenty of chickens be slaughtered, I am well in touch with that side of life and I fully agree that not enough people are. It must be even harder in North America where most meat bought seems to be pre-cooked. At least here, the blood is still there when you buy it. I actually had a hard time trying to explain to my 4 year old niece that beef comes from cows. Chicken she understood, but not beef. Heh, that's the modern world for you.

Oh, but for Christmas.. err.. I really don't know. Everyone keeps asking me.

19. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

My wife insists on eggs from free ranging chickens. It drives me crazy; they are $5 per dozen compared to $2 per doz for eggs from caged chickens, and most of the time they are stale even though they are well within the use-by date.

I'm not that cool with keeping chickens in cages, but $5 per dozen is a rort!

20. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 10y

Huh, that price difference doesn't sound right James. I think I only pay about an extra 50c to $1 for the free range ones. I could be mistaken though - I don't even look at the caged ones anymore these days.