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1. Posted by celestine (Budding Member 3 posts) 12y

How would some body go about traveling too Tibet from Thailand?

2. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 12y

Not sure about getting there you may find it difficult due to complicated political situation (FREE TIBET!!!)
Anyway if you do go

Tashi Deleck- Direct translation congratulations! used as a greeting and
Depo yin pe- how are you? the response to which is depo yin. (I am fine)

The people are fantastic however if you want a little taste of Tibet with out actually going try Dharamsala in the Himilayan foot hills Himachal Pradesh India it's where the current Dhala Lama (spelt better) lives and it's a fantasti place to be nestled in the foothills.

gimme a shout if you want to know anything else

mim

3. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 12y

if u've ever actually been to Tibet i don't think u will say that.....if there is no Chinese goverment's support...how do u go there? there would be no airport, no road...everybody was under the slavery .....there would be no hotel, no sanitery food.....our goverment spend millions of money on Tibet to make their life better, and ppl in Tibet actually advocate our goverment, and they don't have to give up their religion....what's wrong with their POLITICAL SITUATION??

U TELL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 12y

Millions soldiors died on the way of building the road to Tibet in order make a way which can send supplies to Tibet.....DO U KNOW IT? if u've ever been there....what u ate...were all from places out of Tibet.....u should go talk to ppl there..they will tell u how wrong u are!!!1

don't say that kind of thing to show how ignorant u are plz..don't do that again.....

5. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 12y

There is plenty wrong with a situation like that. The Tibetans are under forced rule and all of the ones in excile i met weren't particularly happy about it.

All I can say is I hardly made a bold political statement you completely jumped the gun so please do not call me ignorant, like they say, you don't know me.

6. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 12y

May I also be so bold as to point out your own obvious ignorance and post a couple of quotes from various officials and activists on the Tibetan front...?

"Human rights conditions in Tibet remain dismal. Under the Chinese occupation, the Tibetan people are denied most rights guaranteed in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights including the rights to self-determination, freedom of speech, assembly, movement, expression and travel."

Alexander Solzhenytsin described the Chinese regime in Tibet as "more brutal and inhumane than any other communist regime in the world."

Gedhun Choekyi Nyima was recognized as the 11th Panchen Lama of Tibet by His Holiness the Dalai Lama in May 1995 and was abducted by the Chinese government only a few days later. His current whereabouts are unknown.
-Gedhun was only 5 years old at the time.

More than a million Tibetans have died under the Chinese occupation as a result of torture, starvation, and execution, according to the Tibetan Government in Exile.

More than 6,000 monasteries and their contents, irreplaceable jewels of Tibetan culture, have been destroyed.

Tibetans are routinely imprisoned and tortured for non-violently expressing their views.

Freedom of religion is severely curtailed.

Nuns are brutally raped in Chinese prisons.

China is encouraging the large-scale settlement of non-Tibetans into Tibet which is overwhelming the Tibetan population in many areas.

I rest my case.

7. Posted by Peter (Admin 5789 posts) 12y

Sorry orienteyec, I'm with mim on this one. Building a few roads and airports hardly justifies invading another country, suppressing its people and systematically attempting to wipe them out. No Tibetans asked for those roads and I dare say that had the Chinese not been there, they would have found their own ways of supplying themselves. You say people in Tibet advocate your government - surely you must be referring to the Chinese people there, not the Tibetans.. any Tibetans advocating the current situation would only be doing so out of fear. Listen to the Tibetans who have gone into exile to hear a more honest point of view.

Countries and people have to live up to their crimes against humanity (both past and present) and don't think I am just picking on China, because in Australia there are plenty of things to be embarrassed of (apalling aboriginal health care and past crimes, refugee imprisonment, invasion of Iraq, etc.. - yeah, I'm pretty left-leaning I suppose). Each country has its faults and we need to be honest with ourselves about them.

I sincerely hope this doesn't get into a flaming thread, as that won't serve anyone. If you have facts (and references) to post - please do, but try to refrain from accusations of ignorance

8. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 12y

How succinctly put Peter, I went into that a little outraged but you have well articulated what I wanted to point out.
I agree about not turning this into a flaming thread, however, as I said before these issues are very important especially to a community of people who spend a lot of time travelling to these countrys.

The lack of understanding about situations like this is phenomenal, often stemming from individual countrys approach to the subject; for instance the Chinese governments (often propoganda like) control of press and resource within the country.
A simple search on an engine will prove this when you see the type of literature the Chinese government puts out about Tibet.
(Although I'll be the first to admit that "Free Tibet" causes aren't completely innocent of a little propaganda.)

Anyway...everyone is of course entirely entitled to their own opinions and I hope this thread has caused no hard feelings


mim

9. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 12y

i don't understand ur "under the chinese occupiration"....Tibet has been belonging to China since 1000 years ago....

and what u hear is completely distorted by west press, no matter how they mislead u....u should go there any see it by urself....i've really been there few years ago, ....and all of ppl who have been there can tell u how Chinese goverment respect their religion like i told u....

i've been living overseas for a long time....what i've been seeing are all adverse against Chinese goverment.....there is a group of ppl who don't want China to be strong therefore threaten their benefit....they always bring up old issues in order to distort Chinese goverment's image...THAT'S ALL WRONG......all of ppl who are living in China can tell u, how our lives have been improving..how our human rights have been respecting more and more....how our goverment are doin' their best to balance all the things....

i don't know wheter u guys can understand that....Chinese goverment is great....they've been treated unjustly for a really long time....

ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING IN TIBET.....u should go to see it in reality

10. Posted by orienteyec (Full Member 84 posts) 12y

Alexander Solzhenytsin described the Chinese regime in Tibet as 'more brutal and
inhumane than any other communist regime in the world.'

speaking of ur Quote:

brutal? inhuman? u know what...i actually found it funny....:D really....

i feel like....i don't have to argue with u anymore.....ppl who living in China really support
our goverment....and our country's progress is breathtaking.....everything is goin' so good
there....and.....we have such a brilliant history......i am really pround that i am a Chinese
and China is leaded by the communist party...

-snip-

so.....i don't have to say anything....the truth will prove u wrong.....

[ Edit: sorry, a little too offensive to other members.. ]