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1. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

I watched a presidential press conference this morning. But, the topic is NOT going to be about what was said, rather about how it was said. (Yes, the press conference was about national security, domestic spying, and a few other issues raised by press questions - that's not going to be my point.) What I really would like is input on the way we convey our point of view. I watched the entire "program" and found myself beginning to count the number of times "terror, terrorism, terrorist, 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans and Mississippi" were used to answer questions that had little or nothing to do with those aspects.

So, my questions are:

1) Why does the "Long and Loud" approach (still) work?
(If you say things long enough and loud enough - people will begin to agree with you.)

2) Are we, as a society, truly that gullible?

3) If not, why do we acquiesce to such tactics?

Please don't make this a debate about Bush or the foibles of governments in general. It's about human behavior and why we respond the way we do to certain situations. Thanks!

2. Posted by SeeTheSky (Respected Member 558 posts) 10y

my answer to all three is.. well... most of us know the truth behind the bullshit, most of us dont acquiesce, a decent amount of us are not that gullible, and we acquiesce becuase we don't know how to do anything about it, we feel powerfess becuase we are in a civil sense, and becuase people are 'busy with their lives' which is, innatley, true. so what do we do? f*cking revolt, overthrow the goverment, start again. this shit is obviously spiraling out of control, goverment as become a mockery of freedom. so, we start again, smaller, and independent states like europe. so we can each self govern according to what is see right. or maybe, we can just dan something totally new. maybe we need to try a new type of goverment! were not just gonna stop at o.k., are we?
thats me dumb opinion
Evan

3. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

1) Why does the "Long and Loud" approach (still) work?
(If you say things long enough and loud enough - people will begin to agree with you.)

2) Are we, as a society, truly that gullible?

3) If not, why do we acquiesce to such tactics?

1. I think because too many people don't listen properly or read up properly on these things. If it's all you hear, you might end up thinking it's true. This is also true in business I find, but it's especially clear in geographic news coverage. You hear very different things if you watch the news in the US, Australia, Norway or the Netherlands for example, let alone the Middle East, Africa etc. etc.

2. Uhm, yes, unfortunately.

3. N/A

4. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

1. The 'long and loud' approach works because it's based on the 1984 (the book, not the year) approch. Take a word, change its meaning slightly, repeat it over and over again, and soon people take it at face value. Why did so few people bite "you're either with us or against us" hook, line and sinker? Because it SEEMS logical. As anargument, it's pretty sound - at first glnce. We like our news in sound bites, though, so if that's all we hear - or care to hear - then that's all we get.

2. We're not that gullible, we're just that lazy. If we read a little more, and read the foreign press, and keep an open mind, I think we'd be a lot less likely to accept what we're told at face value. But who wants to spend all that time reading and learning? Sound bite it for me and flip it back to Medium (THE worst show ever, IMHO).

3. See above (I got carried away!)