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1. Posted by don_kam (Full Member 115 posts) 10y

Been back from Spain and the trip has been great. However, there are some incidents which really piss me off and was hoping someone could enlighten me:

1) Whats with the senior citizens?

Had a couple of incidents with old folks which really piss me off...

a) Was taking a train and wanted to put my bagpack at the luggage compartment. They were full but i spotted a spot occupied by a relatively small bag (not even enough to fit a basketball). When i want to lift it up to put my luggage underneath, an old man got up and start speaking loudly at me. He sounded really piss and gesture at me to tell me that I cannot put my bags there... Now, i have seen lots of people putting bags on top of each other at the compartments and i wonder if the problem arised because i am not spanish... (no chance to test my idea as no other spannish passenger got up the train)

b) Was checking in at the airport. There were 5 counters and as there were 3 of us, we Q up at 3 different counters to see which one is faster. This is more like a habit when Q-ing for food at Mcdonalds. When 1 of us got her turn, the other 2 went over to check in together. An old man, 2 persons behind my friend, start cursing loudly at us in Spanish. Though my spanish is not that good, it is easy to see that he is saying some nasty swear words.. Now, I find this really really unnecessary because we were already one of the last people... the Q me and another friend foresake got only 1 person each so it is not really that much of an advantage that we got. The thing that piss me off is, we overheard him talking to another tourist and realise that he knows how to speak english!!! Now i feel that if you want to curse at me, you should have the guts to do it in english if you know english...

c) We purchase a train ticket in madrid Atocha to Avila and noted that the departing station is madrid Charmatin. We asked the RENFE ticket officer (another old man) and he told us that it is ok to get on the train at Atocha. Now, most train that goes to Charmatin also pass by Atocha first so we didnt suspect anything. He even told me that the entrada is upstairs!! When it is time to go in, the officer at the gate told me that though the train pass by Atocha, I need to change a ticket that says Atocha even the cost is the same!! To get in, i have to change the ticket (at no extra cost) which i was refer to another old man but he was having a good chat with his friend!!! By the time he got to me, the train had left, the next train is 2 hours away and my day trip to Avila was ruin. Now why the heck do i have to change the tickets when there is no extra cost involve!!! AHHHHHH!!!! AND, his col. already explain to him that I need to change my tickets to catch the train, it makes me feel that he did that "slowly slowly get back to me" thing on purpose!!

Am i over reacting coz i dont seem to have much problem with old folks when im in other european countries and i wonder if im really unlucky or old citizens in spain is generally hard to deal with...

Don

2. Posted by mally (Respected Member 199 posts) 10y

I see what you mean. now you understand what Spain is about - as i am in Spain all I shall say is "the proof of the pudding is in the eating." they should get a servey. europeans only want fairness in their society. nothing in life is really free. i fear Spain is loosing out.

3. Posted by chemukh (Full Member 132 posts) 10y

In Chile we have lots of spain inmigrants from the 40's and 50's, they are of course old men now, and there are jokes about them, the prototype of a grumpy.

4. Posted by don_kam (Full Member 115 posts) 10y

So it appears to be juz the old folks... coz im totally cool with the younger generation, male or female... maybe give it another 20 years, all will be fine.....

5. Posted by Desiree (Inactive 157 posts) 10y

;)that's why there are busses going to avilla..

  • and those people speak some english*

but really, I had no trouble at all, most of them were even quite kind to me, or tried to help when i was lost..

6. Posted by Jade138 (Budding Member 5 posts) 10y

I have lived here for close to three years. Have never encountered any rude senior citizens.
The Spaniards are very lay back and usually things are done in an attitude of ... if tomorrow comes ...
IMPO, they are nice, friendly and patience people.

7. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 10y

Not universally, but aren't most old people kind of grumpy? Hate to generalize, but they didn't call the movie "Friendly Old Men".

Just making light of the situation, maybe Spanish old people truly are extra grumpy.

8. Posted by don_kam (Full Member 115 posts) 10y

Oh well,

maybe it was my luck... or the lack of it... but overall, Spain is a pretty nice place to visit (even in the chilly temperature of winter)

9. Posted by steff (Travel Guru 1160 posts) 10y

Haven't met any grumpy old men in Spain so far, but I'd say it isn't the country with the best and friendliest service in the world. But don't take it personally for being a foreigner with limited Spanish. Above all it's a beautiful and great place to live .

10. Posted by don_kam (Full Member 115 posts) 10y

Ya, I must agree that above all, Spain is a great place to be.
May wanna visit in the summer but im afraid that the weather will be too hot (and so will be the old folks...)

Haha