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1. Posted by jaconn (Full Member 20 posts) 10y

Hi there,
I'm buying a rucksack that is for trekking as opposed to travelling, so it is a top loading rucksack and does not have a locking facility. What is everyones opinion about pacsafe bags (the wire netting things that protect your rucksack from thieves)? I am thinking about getting one but have been told that they are pointless as nearly all hostels have lockers. I also got told that they actually draw attention to the bag as since they are locked up the thieves assume something of value must be inside. I'm not convinced by the last point but does anyone have any opinions about these pacsafe bags?? I'm going to S.America then on to NZ and OZ and finally Thailand. Do hostels have lockers in these countries?

Thanks in advance everyone.

2. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 10y

I bought one and took it with me to Canada,America,New Zealand and Australia but never used it once.
Myself and my mate tested it out one night though and we got into my rucksack easily.You can quite easily get in through the top loading part and pull things out through the gaps in the wire mesh.

As for lockers in hostels NO not all of them have lockers although luckily for me i never had a problem.

3. Posted by chemukh (Full Member 132 posts) 10y

Quoting -reece-

As for lockers in hostels NO not all of them have lockers although luckily for me i never had a problem.

And not all are trusty. I was robbed in my hotel in Peru. I left my bag in custody in the reception, with little padlocks on it, but someone made a slight cut in a corner and took my cell phone. Unfortunately, I was confident because the padlocks were OK and do not noticed until to be in my way to Chile, when pencils and other little things began to drop.

4. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 10y

Pacsafe's are fairly heavy, and i've met very few people that actually use them (lots carry them, few seem to use them). Some hostels have lockers, some don't. Surprisingly few actually have lockers which are big enough to fit an entire 65l or similar size backpack into them as well, although admittedly thats from hostels which are in different parts of the world to that which you list. Many have smaller or oddly shaped ones. If you take padlocks, only ever use combination ones. Key ones are easy to break into, and you can also loose the key. The best thing i can suggest is never leave anything particulay valuable anywhere. Take it with you everywhere, even into the shower (have a small waterproof bag for it) and to bed. Sounds paranoid, yes, but if it means that you dont loose your camera/mp3 player/phone/wallett etc, it's probably no bad thing.

5. Posted by jaconn (Full Member 20 posts) 10y

hey,
that makes sense keeping all the valuables with you all the time. but if i'm to buy a top loading rucksack (which i plan to) is there any way of locking them up as they dont have zips? or does the general traveller just risk leaving it around with their clothes in at the hostal when its not practical to take it with them? I realise that if someone wants to get into a bag they will, and theres not much we can do about it but is there a way to deter the thieves that you know of? Cheers

6. Posted by Reece Sanford (Travel Guru 1368 posts) 10y

Ive seen something that locks around the parts that clip together on a top loader but cant remember where.
At the end of the day its easy to get into a rucksack if you really want to ie with a knife.
What i thought about last night was i have a flight bag that goes over my rucksack to stop it getting damaged at airports.What i can do is put my rucksack in the flight bag zip it up and padlock it then but the pacsafe over that.Or put the pacsafe over the rucksack and then the flight bag over that.
Hope ive explained it for you to understand lol

7. Posted by DocNY (Respected Member 416 posts) 10y

The truth is if someone wants to get into your bag badly enough a pacsafe isn't going to stop them, especially if it's a top loader. With a fold over flap (the book type) it's harder unless they want to slice open your bag to bypass the locks. Where the pacsafe is handy is at preventing someone from walking off with your bag - which shouldn't be a problem if you keep a good eye on it. However if you are ever leaving a bag in a hotel with a laptop or something you can't get into a safe and can fasten the pacsafe to something solid it'll defeat the opportunistic thief (the type who rifles your bag).

In truth they aren't all that heavy (in my opinon, especially when compared to a normal cable lock) at 1.3 lbs, and may be worth it. In my opinion the opportunistic thieves are the ones to really watch for, so any layer of protection that makes your bag look tougher to get into is a plus.

I may be crazy, but I've never been robbed.

8. Posted by Chuckles (Budding Member 6 posts) 10y

Im not very familiar with the pacsafe bags, but there is such a thing as a money belt.It seems the safest way to carry around your valuables (passport,tickets,money,documents ect..)This can be worn under you trousers/skirt/shorts.This way they are alot harder for someone to get there hands on as they are underneath your clothes.
I havent used one yet as im not going traveling until the summer, but i feel this is a really good way to carry these kind of things.
Heres a link to give you some idea http://www.letravelstore.com/security.htm
Hope this helps
:)

9. Posted by Clanger (Respected Member 202 posts) 10y

I used mine, and glad I did too. See thread I started.
But again its down to personal choice. I suppose it depends on the country you are in too. But one thing I will say - have nothing of real value in your rucksack, have everything of value in your daypack at all times.

10. Posted by shcsg (Budding Member 11 posts) 10y

I have also been trying to figure out the best way to deal with security on my toploader. Mine is a Gelert with two zip slits on the front so I've bought two padlocks for each clip thing and I put one through each clip once its fastened and loop it through the zipper. Have come to the conclusion that complete security isn't an option with these bags, but when it's all done up tightly, I think they'd have to be pretty determined to get in there. Hope so anyway!!