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51. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

I believe everyone, at the base level, is defined by their DNA. The sequencing of your DNA ultimately dictates if you are male, female or hermaphrodite. It also dictates if you are heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual. But, that's just looking at the stripped down model.

I see "basic" humans being the cars moving along an assembly line - all having the same general shape and all containing the same important components enabling them to function. This one may be a Ford and that one a Dodge, but before they get all the added extras and the paint, etc. - they are still just basic units. The same applies to people. This one is male, that one female and we know the difference because of the shape. From birth, who we are and who we will be as we grow is "manipulated" (lack of a better word) by our family members and outside influences. We are led in a particular direction because of our bodies. A baby boy is going to be nurtured and instructed in ways that (his parent's hope) will "create" a man.

Whether we want to accept it or not, we are defined by societal and social contact. We are also defined by our sexual proclivities and preferences. The two are not mutually exclusive. If they were, there would be no question in anyone's mind what gender and/or sexual preferences they possess. There would be no stigma about being hetero, bi or homosexuality. No matter what our gender or sexual preference, our sense of identity is a combination of both ourselves and our social environments.

Why do people gravitate toward other like-minded individuals? Because it's easy, supportive and socially acceptable. It also reinforces non-aceeptance of those who don't fit a particular mold. It's sad, it's true and it's global.

Isa steps down from the soapbox and goes away...

52. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

Why do people gravitate toward other like-minded individuals?

In my case, I had no choice......you got me drunk.

53. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting beerman

Quoting Isadora

Why do people gravitate toward other like-minded individuals?

In my case, I had no choice......you got me drunk.

So true!!!

54. Posted by IronChef (Full Member 1076 posts) 10y

Gotta admit that I am of the 'Children learn what they live' philosophy.

Take that however you want ... I just think that DNA doesn't define the 'spirit' within all of us.

55. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting IronChef

Gotta admit that I am of the 'Children learn what they live' philosophy.

Take that however you want ... I just think that DNA doesn't define the 'spirit' within all of us.

My parents tried to feed me mushrooms for years - hiding them in the meatloaf, disguising them, pretending it was cream of bacon soup. But no go. My taste buds say pitooie to mushrooms, no matter how much my parents tried to teach me their worth.

What a strange debate this all is - agreeing to live and let live, but not finding too much common ground on the why. It just occured to me that the why of the thing hardly even matters, when all is said and done.

56. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

Why do people gravitate toward other like-minded individuals? Because it's easy, supportive and socially acceptable.

Actually, my wife reckons I steer clear of people who are like-minded to me. If I'm at a BBQ or whatever, I couldn't think of anything worse/boring than spending the day talking to people who are the same as me. "Oh where do you live?", "what do you do for a living?", blah, blah, blah, snooze, snooze, snooze.

I'm much more likely to gravitate to the foreigner, muslim, sheik, gay, etc. - mostly to try to discover what makes people tick who are different from me. It certainly makes for stimulating conversation.

It's certainly more interesting than listening to rubbish about someone's new car, recent holiday in 'Dullsville', the latest sports results....

57. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 10y

As for gay being a choice, I find that extremely hard to believe. Not to take anything away from it (or in the words of Seinfeld, not that there's anything wrong with it) but why on Earth would anybody CHOOSE a life of being discriminated against, laughed at, or unfortunately, being beat up or even killed. I'm sorry but if I was given a choice about that, thank goodness I was such a conformist!

I was watching a Dennis Miller bit on HBO last night where he referenced his "A Boy and His Dolphin" test. I've never heard of this movie, but apparently it features Sophia Lauren getting out of the water onto a boat with wet womanly body parts hanging all over the place and glistening in the sun.

"If you can watch that and still want to F*#@ the captain, you're gay my friend".

And it's as simple as that if ask me.

58. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

DNA dictates your sexuality. Society dictates how you will deal with it. If society didn't play into the equation, then no one would feel the need to hide their sexual preferences.

59. Posted by zanif (Full Member 113 posts) 10y

Quoting Isadora

I believe everyone, at the base level, is defined by their DNA. The sequencing of your DNA ultimately dictates if you are male, female or hermaphrodite. It also dictates if you are heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual. But, that's just looking at the stripped down model.

i thought a person's sexuality is depending on the X and Y choromosome stuff? but anyway in light of the event where a man went into a rampage in a gay bar recently, i feel like hate crimes will always be happening around us, and we're talking anti-gay, anti-americans, anti-asians, anti-muslims, anti-etc., just when you think that today's society is more modern, tolerant and open than before. it's pretty sad really.

60. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting zanif

i thought a person's sexuality is depending on the X and Y choromosome stuff?

The X and Y chromosomes determine your sex (XX for women, XY for men), but not (necessarily) your sexuality.

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