You know one of the companies I felt that way the most was actually a company working in the travel industry.... strange, but I guess my perception in starting there straight after having worked at some great companies was that it would remind me of travelling or at least keep me busy with it in some way.... anyway, it ended up being even more administrative than the temp job I took straight out of uni
I think especially after finishing off uni your first job is a tough one. Especially as it requires quite a major switch away from what you are used to, but also because several of your friends might still be studying, travelling or something else. The first few years are definitely the hardest I reckon.
Working while travelling isn't a bad idea mind you! And I believe the working holiday visa to Australia has opened up for Belgians now so that should be interesting for you! If you do want to set off, I work a 'normal' job for a company up here in Norway that assists travellers with a 'start' package in Australia/South Africa so let me know if you have any questions.
ps. you will get used to it too....slowly but surely
Yes..you are right Sam, it's such a big change to start working after university... I was used to be very lazy while I was a student. I didn't go to classes and I slept every day until 11 am. But now I have to get up every day at 7 o'clock, work all day....it's a very big difference in lifestyle. I'm very tired every evening after work! But like you said...I probably will get used to it..
I've been out working for 1 year now straight after university for an IT company. And I don't know about you but I moved to a completely different city from where I live and where I studied so I was basically alone here. The first few weeks (or months in your case) are hard because like you said you have to get up early go to work for 7-9 hours and get home. After that you just want to eat and sleep because it's so tiring. I went through that phase, but then a few months after working for my company, I got the opportunity to go to Australia to work for 6 months. I took it because I knew I wanted to travel and I knew that it would give me a good experience, especially when I didn't need to know anything about the company's product.
I spent 9 months there because they kept extending my stay. Before I left I told myself to get out there and do stuff (I'm not a party girl). And I did. I took some pottery classes for a few weeks, I went exploring on my own, went whale watching and saw dolphins, went to Sydney a few times and went to the gold coast because I wanted to go to Dreamworld. Now since I've been back I've been keeping myself busy by joining in the company sports teams, volunteering for the maritime museum (crewing on the ships but haven't started yet as they have to do some maintenance on it) and doing some crafts that I've always got on the back burner.
I guess my advice to you is to keep your ears and eyes out at work for opportunities to go overseas, which will keep your work interesting because you'll get to work in a different scene, and to keep your personal life busy by doing the things you've always wanted to do but have no time. It's a good way to meet people and basically that's my main goals, to meet people and to keep myself busy because I have plans in a few years to go on my OE where I can travel till my heart
is content, but I'll be working too so I'll have income.
Hope that helps!!!
Hi Tingo, It's me again.
This forum is like a train station. You stop by here and ask these travellers to help you find your goal in life. Goal in life is far deeper than travelling experiences. I consider myself as an above average traveller; but my goal in life has little to do with traveling. Traveling let me the world as it really is, and not what others write about. The experience of seeing how people in other lands and cultures live is very educational, and help me make decisions in my daily life. Traveling help me to be more open-minded, not quick to criticize people, just because they do things differently than me. I become more tolerable of others, more friendly. But all of that were just experiences, not goal of life.
My personal life goals are: To train my children, so that when they grow up to be honest, useful citizens wherever they live. To be as much loving and romantic husband to my wife as I can (I am 51 now, and still got it! haha). To be as friendly and helpful to my friends and other relatives as I am capable of doing. Yes, I am also a Christian. And my ultimate goal, is when I leave this earth and meet my Maker, I will be called "good and faithful servant".
You asked me earlier about my life changing when I was 40. What I did was, looking for ways to help me do lots of traveling with my family. I wanted my wife and children have the opportunity to travel as much as I did when I was living with my parents who were diplomats. So I started saving money for traveling. But, that wasn't enough, until I got a job with the airlines. Now any member of my family can go almost anywhere in the world for a very minimal fee. By this time next year, I have enough seniority with my airlines, that we can travel free anywhere my airlines flies in the US, Canada, Caribbeans, Mexico and Hawaii. Perhaps, you can consider that a small goal has been achieved.
If I had any advice for you, it would be: Discipline yourself to hard work. To me work is the foundation of a human being. Ofcourse, if you don't enjoy your work, then their is little sense to stick to it, find something else. Use traveling as a mean to spice up your life. I work 2 or 3 jobs. But, often reward myself with a seat on the plane almost monthly. I plan to do that again next month, from Dallas to Tokyo, and beyond. It feels great to sit there (often 1st class) looking out the window, seeing the clouds, the mountains, the houses below, knowing that no one can bother you with phone calls, with requests.
Hi Tingo, yep I agree to alot of the stuff said in the replies here. You have to go out and try and experience stuff. I think that you haven't 'lost' 6 years of your life in IT - more like you have tried this path - decided you aren't too happy with it and so just take it as part of lifes journey. After all life is a journey - not a destination! Many people should have heard that motto at least once in their lives. Which brings me to say that maybe you shouldn't have one major goal in life but maybe two or three, or more in a lifetime. I believe yes try more hobbies after work - maybe even find an evening study course to do if you cannot get time off from work to study - if you want to choose that path that is. There are so many options in life available. I don't think you should hold back. As for certain goals in life they would vary from person to person, lifestyle to lifestyle etc. etc. Obviously if you are married with kids you have different goals to that of someone, say who has no children, is single and is very career orientated and wants a challenging career. You would prioritise things differently and put different things into perspective such as if you had children - you would consider them first etc. etc. It is good to have goals to work towards in life. Mine at the moment is just to travel and meet different cultures, then after travelling who knows? I may climb a different career ladder, I may keep on travelling, I may live somewhere else. I don't know for sure but I know I concentrate on living in the moment as in the here and now, and being happy now It's not always easy to do but if I think like that I make more effort with things. Not like I live like there is no tomorrow. I do think you have to have a rough plan for the future - but not a strict one, as you don't know what is round life's corner.
You are saying if you work and travel now that you will not have anything when you are older - why not People study at 30 / 40+ years old. Maybe you could choose the option that, if you studied every now and again after work towards another degree such as architecture or whatever and worked in between. Or you could do home study which I have heard can have good results and I think this is more flexible and allows more time than other types of studying for a degree. This is something I may consider when I come back from my travelling adventure(s) However, I don't know - it is one of many options that I am considering in life.
sunset: My situation is a bit similar, I'm living now at my parents house again (after six years living in other places). The last years I have been travelling a lot, so I didn't have a fixed place to live... That really sucks because all of my friends from university live in other places now. Also I don't really relate to the people at my work... Anyway, it's just a temporary solution to live at my parents place, but for the moment I can save a lot of money
iloveflying: I think goal in life is just to be happy, the only problem is to find out what makes you happy... I know I was always happy while travelling, but I'm not sure why I'm not happy while I'm working now...still have to find that out Travelling is a bit like holiday, you don't have any worries to think about, and you meet friendly people everywhere. It's very different from the working life...everybody is stressed and complaining about pointless unimportant things, that makes me a bit sad... Probably I'm more sensitive to those things because I've been travelling, and I've experienced other things then most people who just go to work every day and never leave there own city I know that people in other places are having much bigger problems then the stuff people at e.g. my work are complaining about...
For the moment I'm working hard like you said, because I'm able to go to Chicago in August for my work..that's what keeps me going for the moment
rach-a: I agree with you that maybe you shouldn't have only one goal In a few years, maybe when I'm 30, I would like to have some children also, so then my goal will be clear I suppose But things don't alway go like you plan them... At the moment I don't have this goal yet as I don't have any children... I'm trying to concentrate on my work, but it really sucks if you don't like the job very much.
I say that if you work and travel, you won't have anything when you are older... I mean, when you travel and work, you probably won't be able to save any money for when you reach an age when you are not able to work any longer. I'm not sure if you i'll get any pension if you are working most of the time?
I don't actually really have any goals in life with the exception of trying to avoid what everybody more or less agrees is my certain fate of being killed after being hit by a bus.
Other than that, lots of things i'd like to do/see etc, but nothing overriding - just see what happens
well i'm actually still at university... and after reading all your things i thought i should say that i'm hoping one day i can have a job which involves travelilng!! my dream job would be to travel to all remote places in south america and film it... if this actually happens remains to be seen. but i do know that the one thing that scares me most is that one day when i'm old and wrinkly i'll wake up and say 'oh my god i've never lived my life.. i've never travelled and never seen the world' ! and this is what keeps me motivated... if you dont like your job then you should definately consider changing jobs. even if it means less pay... because money does not equal happiness!!! as everyone seems to think! so long as you are happy in what you are doing... and you feel like you're living your life to its maximum potential then thats all that matters!!!
Yeah, my dream job would be a photographer for National Geographic The problem is that I studied the wrong thing to become a photographer. It seems that my interests changed a lot from when I was 18/19 until now...
. . . .but it is great your interests have changed, since that shows you are still open to learning and developing, and hey you are only in your 20's so lots more changes & learning yet to come . . . . .and as Rach says life is a journey . .so enjoy the detours and even dead ends can have benefits!
I have just left my career path after 10years . . .I was good at my job and progessing well, but I am now taking a sabbatical, and tsee it as a great opportunity to reflect upon what i really want from life and what i want to give to life . . .
So my travels are there to help me reflect, to experience something I have not done before and hopefully to make new friends . . who knows where the next three months will lead me . . .
I do know that later this year I will be looking to find a new job . . I am prepared to study again, or and start at the bottom of the ladder . . . .so my advice to you is look upon this time as a really positive change in your life, and be prepared for it happening again in your late 30's and again in your 40's, 50's , 70's and 90's!!
Goals are there to be achieved, but is also the getting there that counts!!
Wow is that too deep?! or was it helpful!?