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1. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Spanish: Donde esta el gato en el horno?
English: What is Freedom?

2. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

Quoting Brendan

Spanish: Donde esta el gato en el horno?
English: What is Freedom?

?????
English translation: Where is the cat in the oven...

What is freedom is another story altogether.... Which is it - or how are they related????

3. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

I was just trying to trip you up Isa, the 'real' question is the latter.

4. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 10y

I thought as much - but also thought I'd double-check just to be sure I didn't answer the wrong question.

The cat is placed in the center of the over for perfect over-all roasting. Ask Tina. Oh wait - she only knows how to make cat-ala-king...

Freedom - now that's a whole different kettle of fish, isn't it... Thinking on that one...

5. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 10y

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose......

Thank you Kris Kristofferson.....

6. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting beerman

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose......

Thank you Kris Kristofferson.....

Wait... wasn't that Janice?

Freedom is a concept
by which we measure
our pain.

- totally misquoted from John Lennon

7. Posted by Pardus (Respected Member 2356 posts) 10y

The original version is by KK, much slower and more country style, but still good. It was made famous by Janice Joplin, though.

I won't go ranting about how overused, abused, misused, etc. the word freedom is.... Just think what it really means - You can do anything you like, incl. Murder, Rape, etc...
People shouting for freedom are the ones that already have it but don't use it properly.

Down with Propaganda - Free Speech for the Silly!!!

8. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 10y

Interesting reply,

I certainly think that very few people are actually free in this world. Anyone who has seen Appleseed, the movie is questionable, but a quote from one of the characters sticks out:

What a strange creature that is man, who will cage himself so willingly.

9. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

To me, freedom is one of those words (like 'hero') that's so overused it doesn't really mean anything anymore. Mr. Bush, for example, peppers every speech with the word 'freedom' - yet how free are the millions of poor Americans who can't afford healthcare? Does one practice freedom by dying from a preventable disease you can't afford to treat?

Politics aside, freedom is tricky to define. Is it being allowed to do anything you want, whenever you want? To the point of infringing on another's rights? Is an open marriage a free marriage? I tend to think discipline and sacrifice mean more freedom - because life's lessons teach you to appreciate who you are and what you have - freeing you from anger, disappointment and doubt.

10. Posted by magykal1 (Travel Guru 2026 posts) 10y

Freedom is relative innit? ;)