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Very Rough Itinerary; Please Help!

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1. Posted by farleyUL (Full Member 125 posts) 10y

Alright, my friend and I are headed to Europe in the summer of '07 and have put together a VERY rough itinerary. We plan on going for about two months and will more than likely be getting the two month youth Eurail pass for $897. We'll be getting there some time in late May and probably flying back to the States some time in late July. If you could just give us some suggestions as to what's good that we've got on the list and what we might want to consider taking off or putting on, it would be appreciated. We're still trying to get length we'll be staying in cities hammered out, so suggestions would also be welcome.

London to Amsterdam/Paris
Paris to Barcelona
Barcelona to S. France
S. France to Milan
Milan to Venice
Venice to Florence
Florence to Rome
Rome to Athens
Athens to Istanbul
Istanbul to Bucharest
Bucharest to Budapest
Budapest to Vienna
Vienna to Prague
Prague to Berlin
Berlin to Amsterdam

I realize that this is quite a few places in just two months, so go ahead and tear into it and help us shore up this list. Also, how much difficulty can we expect in booking hostels during the summer months?

2. Posted by nickla (Respected Member 223 posts) 10y

Hi, i would say to miss out Bucharest. I found it very lacking in tourist attractions, there wasnt really anything to do there and not much of interest. ALtogether in my opinion not a very nice place to go.

If you have the chance i would recommend visiting Cesky krumlov, which is in the south of the czech republic, about 3 hours from prague. Is v different from the other capitals and big towns you are seeing and well worth a visit.

Nicola

3. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 10y

hey mate!
good list - Ide leave in Bucharest (it is a craphole but stil worth it) even to help break up that LOOONG ride from Istanbul to Romania! otherwise where would u stop???

u might want to stop in Bulgaria - thats a long trip from Ist -> Buchi. same for the Buchi to Buda train - you will be going Via Sigishoara - a beautiful town in Transylvania (Draculas birth place) Iv been here 3 times and love it! highly recommend especially for the girls!

otherwise looks good...also note - USA visa purchased at the Turk border costs around $40.

4. Posted by farleyUL (Full Member 125 posts) 10y

Do you think that it would be possible to go all those places and still enjoy them in only two months though? Another thing is that we'd like to get out of the capitals/big cities some as well...with the Eurail pass, are you even able to do that or do they just service the big cities and then you have to find your own way out into the countryside? Thanks for all the input. Next summer can't come soon enough. ;)

5. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 10y

yeah glad u asked. I would never see so many places in 2 months. It has taken me about 5 different backpacking trips (4-5 weeks each) to cover all that ground. Ur missing out on the best bits in the small towns.

OR u may want to spend more time in each city! Istanbul for me was the best city i have been too and didnt want to leave....im sure this will happen to you, be flexible and dont get stuck in one itinerary.

6. Posted by farleyUL (Full Member 125 posts) 10y

Yeah, we're going to try and rougly estimate how many days we'll spend in each city but we definitely plan on keeping things flexible. One thing that I haven't been able to get clarified for me is if we get the Eurail pass, will we be able to take trains to those small towns up in the Alps or in the South of France, etc? We're estimating that it will take in the neighborhood of 4-5000 USD for this trip, including 2 month Eurail tickets and plane tickets...are we kidding ourselves or does this seem reasonable? Thanks again for all the help. If we end up making it up to Edinburgh, maybe we could hook up and grab some beers, Jeff.

7. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 10y

if we get the Eurail pass, will we be able to take trains to those small towns up in the Alps or in the South of France, etc?

sorry, i have never taken the eurial pass - but im sure it will be valid - BUT check as wel as I dont know if the eurail pass is valid in Swiss - Swizterland does its own thing apart from the rest of west euro.

4-5000 USD for this trip, including 2 month Eurail tickets

Sounds fine - i usually budget 2000USD per month of travel. But, then again, most of my travels have been in east euro.

If we end up making it up to Edinburgh, maybe we could hook up and grab some beers, Jeff.

Yeah def, im always up for a pint! send me an email when u r arriving and i can show u around here too

8. Posted by Americano (Budding Member 7 posts) 10y

Think about going from Milan to Florence and then Florence to Venice... otherwise you are criss-crossing Italy twice!

Also, think about taking advantage of overnight trains instead of paying for hotels. For example, there is an overnight train from Vienna to Warsaw, Poland. You can see the schedule here: www.pkp.pl

You leave at about 10:00 at night, and arrive in the morning. Thus saving hotel bills. The trains are comfortable. As always in Central Europe, LOCK YOUR DOORS. Gypsies have been known to come in during the night and rob people. It happened once on a train that I was on in Slovakia (everybody had their doors locked, so they got nothing.)

You can also go and see Cracow, Poland.

If you want to see a really inexpensive and nice town, try Bratislava, Slovakia... it's a very short hop from Vienna and it's DIRT CHEAP! Also, full of smoking hot women, if that's something you are interested in...

9. Posted by BlankFrack (Respected Member 280 posts) 10y

With respects to Bucharest I would suggest Brasov as an alternative. It's much nicer than Bucharest in my opinion and is on the same train line that goes from Bucharest to Budapest (the next city on your list) so it's not much harder to get to. You can find more information about it here - http://www.brasovtravelguide.ro/bv-en/index.php

10. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3289 posts) 10y

Quoting farleyUL

Another thing is that we'd like to get out of the capitals/big cities some as well...with the Eurail pass, are you even able to do that or do they just service the big cities and then you have to find your own way out into the countryside?

The Eurail pass is valid for every regular train. Rule of thumb: If you could buy your ticket at the train station without being charged special prices (for Couchettes, Nighttrains, High Speed Trains, Luxury- and Touristtrains, etc.), your Eurail is valid.

So if a train goes there, it is highly likely you can get there "free of charge".

BTW, plan at least 5 days for London, Paris and Rome each - otherwise you miss too much.