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61. Posted by cruisegirl (Respected Member 244 posts) 10y

Okay, I am a little late jumping into this conversation, but

  • jumps up on to soapbox, noticing the nice polishing job, thanks Tway*

I am living in a 100% non-smoking city. In no public building smoking is allowed. Some bars/pubs/casinos have a separate smoking room. Which is fine (although I am sure the smell is horrendous in there :)) I used to be a smoker, I quit just about a year ago now. But even when i was smoking, I thought myself a "considerate" smoker. I would not smoke a table full of non-smokers, I prefered to smoke outside, in fact, I hated the smell of smoke. But it was an addiction.

Imagine my shock and surprise at the mall in Lisbon (Colombo), where smoking is allowed throughout.

I can't deny that I do prefer the bars to be non-smoking venues, it's nice to come home after a night at the bar and not be sick from the smell of smoke left in my hair (prefer to be sick from amount of tequila consumed ;)). But the smoking ban has killed business in a lot of little local bars, and put a lot of people out of a job.

It is an individual choice to smoke or not to smoke. It is also an individual choice to into a pub that allows smoking.

It really does suck to have to choose to enter a smoking extablishment or not, it's like deciding whether the smoke will kill you or not. But truthfully, my Grandma died of lung cancer at 61 years of age. My Papa is 86, survived WWII, is STILL smoking, and healthy as ever. So really, who knows? Something is going to terminate us eventually....the biggest health addict could decide to skydive tomorrow and not have their parachute open.

Life is full of choices. Some harder than others, and it takes every type of person to make this world go 'round.

This is a debate that will go on forever. You can't stop a person from smoking on the street, but you can try to influence a person that you love to make the right decision, and hopefully they will be considerate of your health and your choice.

  • clears throat, steps down from soapbox, blushing a little from outburst of opinion....only used to giving little bits of travel advice.....polishes soapbox for next person and scurries off*
62. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 10y

I've chosen to revive this after a night out on Saturday.

  • gets the soapbox out the cupboard and dusts it off*

So the smoking ban is going to start in England next year. To some extent, I can't wait to be able to go out and not have to breathe other peoples smoke. From the other point of view, there's this. What should a non-smoker do when most of their friends smoke?

Quite a lot of my friends smoke. Even though I hate it, we always have to sit in the smoking area of pubs/bars/restaurants. I am out-numbered. The other night, for some reason, they chose to go Wetherspoons, which is non-smoking. We therefore had to sit outside all night, in April, under very weak heaters. Before long I left and went home cos I was just too cold. Is this what's to come? I have to choose between choking and freezing.

Smokers (not all) act like they're so hard done by and persecuted....But what they don't realise is for how long non-smokers around them, especially friends, family, bar staff, have had compromise and put up with discomfort to accomodate them, and for people who are friends with smokers it will continue when the smokers are going outside...

I love my friends but I'm sick of having to accomodate peoples filthy addiction...

63. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Sympathies Clara,
But your choice, your friends should be more accomadating though.
Only 12 months or so till the ban comes in, then lets see what else goverment want to prevent us doing, mmm since breathing is the biggest cause of death, maybe it's next .......

64. Posted by Clarabell (Travel Guru 1696 posts) 10y

I'm just too darned tolerant. Someday soon I'm just gonna say No!! We either go where I want go, or i'm going home.

65. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

I'm with you Clarabell. Smoking is slow motion suicide.

There's nothing worse than going out to dinner with a group of smokers who spend half the night outside on the footpath. Why not just stay home and smoke?

You should only be allowed to smoke in your own house, and it should be banned in, say, 10 years so society has time to adjust.

Oh, and I simply don't care what the ramifications of banning it might be (creation of a black market, loss of jobs, etc). Society as a whole will still be better off - by a long shot.

66. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Now i'm going to upset you guys again.
Encourage people to give up - yes
Tell people what to do - no.
If you want to smoke, well thats your decision and I don't think anyone in a suit in parlament or some skabby hippy on the street should dictate what someone else does to themselves.
Yes, smokers should be curtious to non-smokers and not make things worse by blowing smoke in their direction and placing their butts in the bins.
Just remember EVERYONE has some habbit that someone finds discusting.

67. Posted by MerB (Full Member 147 posts) 10y

Quoting Guinness

Just remember EVERYONE has some habbit that someone finds discusting.

This is true. People love judging their neighbour before they've walked the proverbial mile in their moccasins.

68. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 10y

Quoting Guinness

Just remember EVERYONE has some habbit that someone finds discusting.

Yes, but picking one's nose will not endanger the health of the people around you. Well, unless you've got the flu, I guess.

69. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Quoting tway

Quoting Guinness

Just remember EVERYONE has some habbit that someone finds discusting.

Yes, but picking one's nose will not endanger the health of the people around you. Well, unless you've got the flu, I guess.

Bird flu - can't drive and have a tendancy to go shopping for no apparent reason

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