I was just thinking Oz is a huge and diverse place, which is the reason i am so keen to visit. Ive been planning on a Workin holiday visa and getting cafe, bar or shop work while out there. But wouldnt this serioulsy slow you down on visiting such a huge country, because surely for somethin like bar or shop work you would have to stay for a about 3 months apiece?
Anybody traveeled with a workin visa, have any tips or stories to share?
Oz is huge, but it is not diverse. You could go from Perth to Brisbane, and it is still culturally pretty similar. If you travelled the same distance across Europe you would have crossed seven or eight countries.
I am on a WHV having left Oz and now working in the UK. Though I was working in hospitality in Oz to get myself through uni.
Let me tell you mate; hospitality employers in Oz deserve whatever they get. Take a job, tell them you will be there for however long they want to hear, and then drop them on their arse when the need arises. They will just employ you as a casual (ie: working by the hour on an hourly rate), which means they can cut you off with no notice. Fortunately, this means you can do the same to them quite legally.
Hospitality employers would have to be the worst employer group in Oz - stick it to 'em!
you haven't worked for every hospitality company in Oz, and its because of people being crap employees and unreliable that they get like that. Having said that I do agree to an extent. They'll dump you without notice, quite legally, and some - especially the larger ones do treat you like refugees. But one day of you ever own a business of your own you might do the same. The working holiday makers I have met have had mixed to good experiences with bars and cafes. Some have been such good employees they were begged to stay.
My advice is be good to them, and they just might do the same to you. You never know when you will need that job back. And if they are crap then just leave. For any employer good people are always hard to find, very hard, so if they like you they'll look after you.
I suppose that most of my experience was with ALH, which would probably be the largest hospitality employer group in Oz.
I was a supervisor at some of their larger pubs and I was in the habit of dropping people who didn't measure up pretty quickly. That was just the nature of the beast I suppose.
However, having worked in hospitality for seven years and moving up to supervisor, I never earned anymore than about $22 per hour and was never employed on any basis other than as a casual.
Now that I am in a real job, paid properly on a full time wage I realise just how bad the whole hospitality thing is. Oz is the second most casualised job market in the western world (behind Spain I hear). I blame McDonalds!
Some of them may be better than others, but they are all still pretty bad.