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11. Posted by Jase007 (Travel Guru 8870 posts) 10y

Honk Kong airport has wifi, can't remember if it's free. but i'm sure i didn't pay for it.

12. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 10y

Why is it such a big deal that you have to pay for a service that costs somebody else money to deliver and maintain? The WIFI alliance boasts some of the largest corporations on the planet like Nokia and Sharp and Olivetti. Last time I looked they weren't giving away phones or printers for free.

Most airports are privatised or well on their way to being so. and airport taxes are paid to governments, not to the airports so again, what's the problem?

13. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 10y

Quoting majito

Why is it such a big deal that you have to pay for a service that costs somebody else money to deliver and maintain? The WIFI alliance boasts some of the largest corporations on the planet like Nokia and Sharp and Olivetti. Last time I looked they weren't giving away phones or printers for free.

The cost here is really 0, aside from the first 100 bucks to buy a router and set it up. The internet connection is already there and adding a few users to it won't cost anything. IMO, that just makes for a lost chance at creating some very strong goodwill. If all 4 coffeeshops on my block can do it, surely London Heathrow can figure it out (I'm sure the coffee joints would have already done this if it wasn't for some overall organization holding them back)?

No idea what the wifi alliance has to do with it? If they do get any money (doubtful), it's most likely included in the router costs somewhere. I think they are more working towards masts that will spread wireless internet over 100's of kms and bring highspeed internet to otherwise unreachable areas. For that I don't think anyone will mind paying....

Quoting majito

Most airports are privatised or well on their way to being so. and airport taxes are paid to governments, not to the airports so again, what's the problem?

Hmm, I was always under the impression that those taxes went to things like keeping up the airport, increasing security measures (hence the post 9-11 hike in taxes) etc. etc.

14. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 10y

Sounds like a great business model: costs nothing to set up, nothing to run, and you pay for it. I agree with the peace and goodwill to man gesture, but I'm sure the boss of the airport might not. My local coffee shops do the same, but they have competition - lots of it. Airports are monopolies by nature. Sydney Airport is the greediest corporation in Oz and getting greedier. Its owned by a bank. They want to turn it into a mega-shopping place with cinemas and child care centers. The state can't stop them because its Federal property.

Taxes do go to security, but because airports are borders into a country and its a govt responsibility to police borders we pay the govt and they provide the security, customs, agriculture checks, and sniffer dogs, etc.

15. Posted by BSNomad (Budding Member 10 posts) 10y

This is turning into an interesting conversation. The way I see it, a lot of commerce is done via the internet so in essence allowing people to log on increases all web businesses'chance at revenue. Hence, wifi should be free because there are plenty of businesses reaping the benefit of people getting on. Yes, many of us just get on and do email sometimes but we pay our ISP's for this service. If we're surfing the web we're probably running into ads all over. Why should the individual pay for that?

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to share information about a site on this system without breaking the rules? I've created an application in which we can map these airport wifis and list if they are free or not. I really think people in this conversation would like to participate in it but I don't know how to get the word out here without it being seen as promotion. Anyone know how?

16. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 10y

Quoting majito

Sounds like a great business model: costs nothing to set up, nothing to run, and you pay for it.

The problem is that hardly anyone actually uses the paid wifi in airports. They'd get much more revenue from allowing free access with advertising income on the side. I don't agree airports are monopolies either. With the success of low cost carriers, airports have to fight for their traffic just like any other business. There's a reason Melbourne is lengthening their runway to accommodate new airlines and that reason is stealing away people otherwise flying through Sydney.

BSNomad, I don't think your solution works at all. Who is allowing you to connect to the internet and who is benefitting from traffic/ads are totally separate things. You are paying for the connection, those ads are paying for a business who has created a product/website and wants to be paid for doing so. How would you suggest the costs are paid for; a tally is made of all web businesses worldwide (several billion) and these then put x amount of money in a big pot which is used to pay for everyone's access? That is just never going to happen. There are new models out there which will become standard over the long run I'm pretty confident, but I don't honestly see how this can be one.

It might also be a good idea to point out that we seem to be mixing different things here. A wifi hotspot is any place where someone has put up a wireless router allowing others to connect to the internet (free or paid) through their internet connection. This is what I originally thought the post was about.

If we're talking wifi towers that allow millions in one city to connect to the internet at any given time, this is more like paying our ISP's as we'll be using them permanently.

Regarding promos, have a look in the forum rules. There are no exceptions. If you'd like to have your site linked to from Travellerspoint, check out the links area and the instructions there.

17. Posted by BSNomad (Budding Member 10 posts) 10y

I'll take a look at the link page. Since this application is purely informational, doesn't have ads or tout anything, it's hard to see how it's a promo but I'll follow the rules.

Obviously, Wifi companies as an industry are not my expertise. I think of it (probably mistakenly) as akin to television. It used to be everyone was able to access basic television for free if you owned a tv. The industry was supported by advertisers at the root I believe. Then cable came along and touted itself as worthy of being paid for because it cut out commercials. So people paid for this specialized programming. Over the years they have added commercials and yet we are still made to pay. Are they not now getting money from both ends? What happened to the original premise? How does this differ from Wifi?

18. Posted by George L. (Budding Member 19 posts) 10y

Do you want to start a whole new map, BSNomad?

(snipped from a press release)
"VIA Rail Canada now offers Wireless Internet (Wi-Fi) access service on board its trains, in several stations and in Panorama lounges in the Qu├ębec City-Windsor corridor - a first in North America. By the end of this year, all VIA 1 and Comfort class travellers will be able to access the Internet on all VIA intercity trains in Ontario and Quebec."

Check it out:
Pay-per-use wireless Internet
VIA Rail Canada / Travel by train! Vacations, tours and tourism info

Until wireless Internet access becomes more widespread and is proven to be a service that many people will indeed take advantage of, it seems perfectly reasonable to pay for it. Remember how much VCRs cost when they first came out? Perhaps, when it becomes more widespread, the price we pay now will be reduced or even eliminated.

19. Posted by BSNomad (Budding Member 10 posts) 10y

Thanks for the information, George L. I will start a whole new map! This is very cool.

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20. Posted by BSNomad (Budding Member 10 posts) 10y

Hey George,
The links aren't working for me. Are they correct?
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