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Why is the Swiss passport "the gold card of citizenships"?

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1. Posted by walkabout (Budding Member, 39 posts) 26 Mar '06 00:52

walkabout has indicated that this thread is about Switzerland

I read on a thread here about passports that to have the Swiss passport is like "the gold card of citizenships". Why is this so? (sorry if this sounds like a stupid question, but have always been curious about it) :)

2. Posted by Windmill (Full Member, 125 posts) 26 Mar '06 01:40

Have you ever heard of the Swiss in conflict with any countries? Going to war with them? Being in alliance with the big guns? Terrorising smaller countries?

It's not surprising then that most countries allow the Swiss in due to this fact. And also because the Swiss are notoriously wealthy.

3. Posted by moscowmetr (Full Member, 267 posts) 26 Mar '06 02:34

I couldnt help but smile while reading the title since I usually say having a swiss ID card is like having a gold card of citizenships.

I travelled extensivly with a Canadian passport and many times required a visa to enter certain countries. When I travelled back with a Swiss passport I didnt need to buy a visa anymore.

Also, working in Switzerland is great since they pay incrediably well (albeit stupid expensive to live). If you are able to save then it is a excellent place to work half the year and travel the other half.

Switzerland, although not oficially a member of the EU (due to a referendum voting "no" to membership)still enjoy all the benifits of being an EU member(through a special agreement with Brussels). This means Swiss nationals can live, work and study in any EU country under the same rules as someone from Germany or Denmark.

What Windmill said is a good point. Being neutral helps with the fact that most other countries have a good foreign policy toward Switzerland. The fact that it is a wealthy nation, there is not a concern that people will not want to go home.

4. Posted by moonflower (Full Member, 39 posts) 27 Mar '06 07:21

Haha, I like this question!;-) Yep, being Swiss or at least having a Swiss passport really helps abroad/when you're traveling. The previous answers show excatly why. Even if I don't want to live in Switzerland forever (it's nice/safe but small...), I don't want to give up my Swiss citizenship - well, we'll see how this will work out.

5. Posted by Zoom (Full Member, 131 posts) 27 Mar '06 07:56

Before we all start thinking how great Switzerland is ask yourself why is Switzerland's so wealthy and living there is SO expensive. Is it through massive exportation of Fine Chocolates and the Worlds Best Watches ? If that was your guess try again. All the money the great ski-ing there brings in ? NO.....The Swiss Banking system is the answer (it's private, numbered accounts and secretive banking in general). What's wrong with that? Because Switzerland is willing to take dirty blood money from every world wide Drug Dealer, Arms Dealers ("Masters of War"), Terrorist, Corrupt Politicians and World Leaders that are skimming or stealing the peoples money to set themselves up for latter years when they are kicked out of there own countries and sent into Exile and every other thief and scumbag that's willing to ruin our world just a little bit more so they can live SO FINE. There was a big scandel years ago how the Swiss Banks had done business with the Nazi's during WWII taking in things of worth stolen from the victims of the Nazi's. Nobody there would even talk about it. I was there and I tried. All I heard is "We don't talk about such things". Many of the most negative, horrible things that go on on this planet could not happen if the evil people doing these acts had nowhere to hide their money. It's a VERY important aspect for them to succeed and Switzerland gladly helps them out. So Switzerland doesn't dirty it's hands in ugly wars and drug deals, it just gets blood on them later when it hides the cash from all these horrible acts. So that's the story, enjoy your next trip to Zurich (you won't see me there) zoom PS. All this is true so people should know. It's not an attack, it's just facts.

6. Posted by solveig (Full Member, 53 posts) 27 Mar '06 08:10

'Zoom' is completely rigth. Havn't it been for Switzerland, maybe the
welfare system in eg. Scandinavian contries would work better. Lots,
of professinal sports persons also move their 'official' address to
eg. Switzerland and this way get around the high taxes. Same for lots
of corrupt politician around the world.

'Windmill' stated that Switzerland is not in conflict with any other
country or deals with terrorist etc. For sure they are in conflict
with good moral and the welfare system. They are the biggest hide out
for corruption due to their law that other countries are not allowed to
get information on bank accounts etc.

You wan't see me in Zurich either.

cheers, Sol

7. Posted by Windmill (Full Member, 125 posts) 27 Mar '06 08:53

I wasn't going to go into as much detail as Zoom and Solveig in my initial post because Walkabout wanted to know about the passports and I didn't want to put him/her off going to Switzerland.

8. Posted by walkabout (Budding Member, 39 posts) 27 Mar '06 08:59

Am already here! :)

9. Posted by dazer (Budding Member, 2 posts) 27 Mar '06 14:29

Ouch! Looks like Zoom hasn't been allowed to get Swiss citizenship! ;)

I'm afraid he also forgot to reveal that despite the corruption, secret bank accounts etc, the Swiss were also the ones to set up the Red Cross to help wounded soldiers regardless of which side of any war they were on.
They were also the largest financial contributors to the UN before even becoming a member of the organisation.

Now, usually it doesn't bother me when people write their opinions about other countries. However, I do take exception when the person making the comments lives in a country (I don't mean to cause offence to all you other Americans, by the way, as I do know that the majority of you are a real good bunch of people!) that ignores human rights laws (Guantanamo Bay), refuses to join the Kyoto protocol, and justifies killing 20 innocent people at an Iraqi wedding by saying that there COULD have been a militant there!!!???????!!!!

Back to the issue of the "golden passport"- I want one!

10. Posted by Zoom (Full Member, 131 posts) 27 Mar '06 16:58

Dear Dazer, Zoom would never ever want a Swiss Passport. Second, if you read what I said closely you will see it has to do with Government policy and the way the country is set up. The citizens are born into the system, they have no choice.
On the American issue, I couldn't agree with you more. Bush and Cheney (and Rumsfeld and Rice) belong in the Hague on trial for war crimes IMO. I'm based in the USA ONLY for business reasons at this point (I was born here but it's not my America anymore, expecially after late 2000) and my second home is in Paris. By the end of 2006 my third home should be Buenos Aires. If things keep going the way they are in the US I have major plans to move my business and family to Vancouver, Canada (they'll be more than happy to get taxes off my income).
You see Dazer. I'm not married to any country, if it's wrong it's wrong. America is VERY WRONG and has been for a long time (it didn't start in 2000, it just got much worse). I'm responsible for myself and my own actions and that's were it ends. I have a very good friend who's moving to Bali right now for the same reasons I've talked about above. I don't know what else to tell you. I;m not connected to a Government, Sports team, Club or organization. And I'm not gonna stick up for something that's wrong, be it Bush or the Swiss Banks, that's my moral compass. You still want a Swiss Passport so your's must be a bit different. You have to live with that, I don't. Zoom