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21. Posted by applegirl (Full Member 144 posts) 10y

Thanks Sam.

Have to say I find Gelli's way of travelling very inspiring

22. Posted by algore (Full Member 88 posts) 10y

Quoting applegirl

But perhaps be aware of how often and how many tonnes of CO2 emissions you contribute to when you take the plane. (Because it's a lot!)

How much does it come down to per person per flight anyway?

23. Posted by SeeTheSky (Respected Member 558 posts) 10y

i am all for not flying. but unfortunately i have flown a hell of a lot in my life, and im only 18. probably becuase of the way my life panned out, but i didnt even realize how ecologically damaging planes were until i read about it on TP, to be honest. i just never heard about it. i love to travel on train, even more on foot. if i could i would only travel on the ground.. but until we start getting a system of boat travel, how the eff am i ever gonna get of this rock they call the americas. im trying me best to avoid it... and im all about backpacking.. i guess i just gotta try harder.
im gonna f"*ckin swim there boo yeahah

24. Posted by loubylou (Travel Guru 664 posts) 10y

Quoting algore

Quoting applegirl

But perhaps be aware of how often and how many tonnes of CO2 emissions you contribute to when you take the plane. (Because it's a lot!)

How much does it come down to per person per flight anyway?

A newspaper in the UK (The Guardian) has been publishing loads of stuff about off-setting flights. They have a CO2 emissions site which you can use to see how many tonnes of CO2 your flight will cost you. For example a return flight from Heathrow to Bangkok would be 2.67 Tonnes of CO2 and the cost to Offset this CO2 would be £ 20.03. The site also gives you an option to buy offsets.

The faq section of this site explains about emissions.

I'm sure there is one of these for every country.

25. Posted by Gelli (Travel Guru 2457 posts) 10y

Who's Gelli?

Most of the time at least, I am!

Have to say I find Gelli's way of travelling very inspiring

Aw, bless. Thanks Applegirl (and all the others who have said that my way of travelling is inspiring and the like. To most people - including, normally, myself, It's just nuts...)

Could you tell me how to visit the USA from Europe ?? Should I take a boat ?? ha ha ha ha

Urm, yes. There are several ways of doing it by boat, and just because I haven't done it so far, doesn't mean I won't in the relatively near future. Actually, Australia is the hardest one, as even from Indonesia just a couple of hundred km away, there are very very few cargo boats that make the trek. 2 friends made it from the Uk to Australia entirely overland, but had to work on a private yaught to get from Indonesia to Oz.

Having said that, in years past there were lots of options, and it's only the onset of airtravel which has removed them.

It is actually possible to get anywhere on the planet by surface, although in fairness you do often need a surfeit of time, and for many journeys (e.g. trans pacific journeys), money as well.

Rich/Gelli, still not on a plane, and now in Lao.

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28. Posted by JackG (Budding Member 4 posts) 10y

Hi all,

Great to see this thread (which has nice prominence on Google in a search for 'no flying') - the New Statesman article which applegirl mentions was excellent, it really sums up the huge problem we face when it comes to aviation, and rightly talks up the voluntary no-flying movement that is starting to take real shape.

I've just built a non-profit making website about travelling without flying to act as an information resource, bringing together links to all the different articles about travelling without flying and letting users submit details of places and journeys they've managed to do without flying.

Hopefully the forum rules allow me to post the link!

www.noflying.info

Be good to hear feedback and comments.

Jack

29. Posted by JackG (Budding Member 4 posts) 10y

Having said that, in years past there were lots of options, and it's only the onset of airtravel which has removed them.

That's facinating to read Gelli, it's exactly the kind of change that we need to reverse, and I think will reverse as the noflying movement grows.

There's huge potential for sustainable travel with boats that simply isn't present with airtravel (mainly because of the cost of renewing fleets even if technological advances occur, which they wont).

Urm, yes. There are several ways of doing it by boat, and just because I haven't done it so far, doesn't mean I won't in the relatively near future. Actually, Australia is the hardest one, as even from Indonesia just a couple of hundred km away, there are very very few cargo boats that make the trek. 2 friends made it from the Uk to Australia entirely overland, but had to work on a private yaught to get from Indonesia to Oz.

Again very interesting to read - my main travel plan at the moment (apart from wanting to live in utopian Sweden for a year or so) is to get from the UK to Hawaii by boat, then onto Fiji and then Australia before back to Europe from there.

I hoped there might be some cargo boats from the West Coast of Australia all the way to Europe via the Suez, as Indonesia et al. looked politically difficult to travel through.

It is actually possible to get anywhere on the planet by surface, although in fairness you do often need a surfeit of time, and for many journeys (e.g. trans pacific journeys), money as well.

Rich/Gelli, still not on a plane, and now in Lao.

Awesome stuff, if you (or anyone else) fancy adding any brief travel accounts to the 'destinations' section of my new site it would be much appreciated - either that or some kind of editorial piece given your notable experience.

Jack

30. Posted by Peter (Admin 5813 posts) 10y

Quoting JackG

Hopefully the forum rules allow me to post the link!

Actually, we don't really allow it. But considering it's on topic and you asked so nicely I will allow it this one time. Though I believe a couple of entries were already removed earlier today in this topic posted by a 'friend' of yours promoting your site.