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21. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Speaking of South Africans, some that I know belong to some oddball group called the Dutch Reformist Church or some such. They've got these weirdo rules like you can't drink or perve at women. No wonder they're all so cranky and highly strung. Can you imagine?

22. Posted by Vlakvark (Budding Member 40 posts) 10y

Oy! Here we go again.

The wedding is in Townsville of all places!!

James,

I am from the Dutch Reformed Church, and without getting into a religious debate about one should and shouldn't do, I can promise you that there is no such thing as not being allowed to drink, perving at woman? well now, in a country where we strive to be politically correct, I must say that no matter what religion you are, it is disrespectful to woman to "perve" at them.

Well that is the decent and safe thing to say!!

23. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

Townsville? Never heard of it.

So you are allowed to drink, and there are no rules about enjoying the scenery? Then I obviously have it all wrong, and I'm certainly glad that I do.

Actually, I have been friends with quite a number of South Africans. The sad thing is that they have all left the country and vow that they'll never return. It's not so much the insecurity that they felt with the high crime levels, more the "reverse discrimination" that they were subjected to when it came to appplying for jobs, etc.

They called it a "brain drain", when a lot of educated people left the country.

24. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4136 posts) 10y

I just tracked down Townsville on Google Earth.

If you haven't already booked your internal flights to get there, try:

www.virginblue.com.au
www.jetstar.com.au

These are two low-cost carriers.

25. Posted by scattman (Budding Member 21 posts) 10y

Hi Vlakvark,
Just to let you know that I spent 7 years living in Sydney. In between those 7 years I was constantly travelling Australia wide. From the north (Darwin) to the south (Tasmania) and from the east (Warringah, northern beaches) to the west (Fremantle). If sydney doesn't really sound appealing to you, why not try broken hill. That is if you love nature... cheers buddy

26. Posted by Purdy (Travel Guru 3546 posts) 10y

Quoting james

Purdy,

I'd check and double check that hotel booking you've got on New Year's Eve. You don't want to be stuffed around with "we've lost your booking" or some such at such a busy time. Plus, I think it's technically in Surrey Hills rather than the city. But having had a look at it's location on a map, it's sort of "city-fringe" or should I say "CBD-fringe". Actually, it's quite a decent location. Quite close to everything. It is a pub though afterall, so don't expect the Hilton no matter what they say about the rooms. Come to think of it, I think I met a brunette there about 20 years ago

Was this the same brunette who had the sister James???!!!! We rang the "hotel" direct and booked it and we have direct emails from them as well (my other half is a bit like you - he rang them then emailed them about 2 million times with questions and cancellation policy info yada yada and they have all our info - even know his inside leg measurement!).

I realise its a pub but it will be NYE and l hope to be enjoying the celebrations your city puts on - if not l will just get soooo pissed that l wont care!!

Thanks

Heather

27. Posted by lil j (Travel Guru 1303 posts) 10y

Ahhh poor james-he helps heaps of people!! hmmm...

You have to get a bus to coogee beach just to relax all day...takes about 30 mins by bus from city centre and its a lovely little place-nice quiet beach-even when busy,then take yourself off to one of the little cafes-to me this would be a great relaxing day!

Its little beaches like coogee that people dont get told about and there usually the best. I fell in love with the place from the moment i've been here.

Went to bondi beach the other day and i wasnt impressed by anything there! give me coogee anyday!!

Circular quay is a must have like someone else stated. Take a trip to the blue mountains-get some great photo shots.

28. Posted by algore (Full Member 88 posts) 10y

Quoting lil j

Its little beaches like coogee that people dont get told about and there usually the best. I fell in love with the place from the moment i've been here.

What? Heaps of people know about Coogee. There are backpackers crawling all over that place (moreso than Bondi)

Though saying that I agree that yes Coogee beach does have a better atmosphere than Bondi. Bondi's become too upper-class with its cafes and men in suits for its own good. Damn yuppies, they're ruining it for us travellers

29. Posted by numero1 (Respected Member 295 posts) 10y

Though saying that I agree that yes Coogee beach does have a better atmosphere than Bondi. Bondi's become too upper-class with its cafes and men in suits for its own good. Damn yuppies, they're ruining it for us travellers

haha

I'm a Bondi boy through and through and I lived in Bondi ever since my mother brought me hope from the hospital in my nappy. When I moved out of home I moved to another place in Bondi. Us locals are soooooo territorial it's not funny. Obviuosly I love Bondi otherwise I would have left my suburb years ago.

Bondi when I was growing up here was a working-class suburb with many people living in the suburb on unemployment benefits in houses partly payed for by the government. Ah.... the good ole days When you could go down the beach and no one would care what type of suit or shoes you wore, when you could get a milkshake on the way back at Bates Milk Bar (Always the symbol of Campbell Parade..now they closed it down for some yuppy platypus shoes joint, and damn those parking meters everywhere). I must say having lived in bondi all my life (apart from a few stints overseas) I feel quite disgusted at how they yuppyfied my suburb, coming from a born and bred local. But having said that, you can't take the Bondi out of the bondi boy, upper-class ritzy glamour suburb or not. It will always be just the Bondi i always grew up with, loved and knew so well to me.

Having said all that though, nowadays I think Coogee does actually have a better energy, vibe and feel than Bondi (strange coming from a Bondi boy myself). I'd rather take a day or night out at Coogee Beach rather than my local.

Restore Bondi to it's former glory I say. Bring back the wirking class and get rid of all those wealthy, ritzy yuppies who have ruined Australia's most famous beach. And while they're at it, get rid of those pesky parking metres - they'll do anything to make money in my suburb these days

30. Posted by algore (Full Member 88 posts) 10y

Heh, I remember the old Papa Giovanni's and the old Gelato Bar before they got redone up to be more 'trendy'. Personally I think McDonald's had something to do with it. Macca's opening up on Bondi Beach paved the way for everything else.

And the parking metres are everywhere in the city now, not just Bondi :(