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61. Posted by quira37 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y

This thread has been extremely helpful, and I appreciate everyone relaying your experiences with overstaying in the Schengen area. I have been travelling in and out of the Schengen area since September and have just realized that I've technically disobeyed the "90 days in 180 days" rule without knowing it!

I spent 2 months in Europe last fall, then 2 months in the States, and then 3 months (exactly 90 days) in Italy. I am now back in the States (US citizen) for 2 months; however, I planned on heading back to Italy for another 90 days. So, I have never stayed more than 90 days at a time, but my "breaks" outside the Schengen area have been less than seems to be stipulated by the law. I realize that I technically should not go back until 90 days after my recent return, but I am tempted to risk it anyway.

My question is: does anyone know what the best country to fly in and out of is? Even though I will be primarily in Italy, my passport will only be stamped in my entry country. Is one country better for "entry and exit" than another for "overstay" reasons? And do you think there is any possibility that I would not be allowed in the Schengen area because I am coming back early?

62. Posted by clueless3 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y

By the time I leave europe, I will have overstayed around 140 days in the Schengen region. I am leaving through Copenhagen and connecting in Amsterdam. Any tips to have a smooth departure? I'm not planning to come back to Europe anytime soon. Any experiences of what an American will expect? And if I get through Copenhagen without a problem, do I have to go through the check in Amsterdam then?

63. Posted by jacqueso (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y

In 2003-2004 I spent 7 months in Europe with no visa, mostly in France. I traveled freely with no problems at any borders. Leaving the country is never a problem. I returned to the US after 7 months, then back to Paris two weeks later with no problems. I wasn't working just traveling and living. I really don't think you will be scrutinized unless you look like someone from a region that is a problem for illegal immigration. This is a sad but true fact. I was on a train from paris to italy, in first class, and the french customs came on board. The only person that they 'controlled' was a woman who appeared to be of african orgin. She was well dressed and traveling in first class, but they searched her luggage, and checked all her documents. They only asked me which bag was mine and walked on. I am a 42 yr old caucasian man. Is that profiling or racist - you bet, but they do it. As far as overstaying your schengen visa, I wouldn't worry about it if you are not doing anything illegal.

64. Posted by madpurple (Budding Member 5 posts) 8y

I have been reading a lotttttttttt of these schengen visa forums... but I cant find a simple answer of my problem as yet...

heres my simple story.

I have a 1 year french schengen visa.
25th June 2007 - 24th June 2008

My first entry to schengen:
1st July 2007

180 days:
1st July 2007 - 1st January 2008

Nº of days spent in schengen territory:
85

My simple question is that:
Since my schengen visa is valid till July 2008, after the expiry of my 180 days and my 90 days of stay... do i need to reapply for another visa to get additional 90 days or I can just exit and re enter the schengen after the expiry of my 180 days with the same visa stamped on my passport?

An answer would be greaattttly appreciated.

My plan is to leave 10 days before my 180 days expire and re-enter france with the same visa to have fresh 90 days of stay.

I have a valid visa but on the visa it says 90 Days of Stay. So I am confused.

Thanx

-Mad

65. Posted by madpurple (Budding Member 5 posts) 8y

Quoting madpurple

I have been reading a lotttttttttt of these schengen visa forums... but I cant find a simple answer of my problem as yet...

heres my simple story.

I have a 1 year french schengen visa.
25th June 2007 - 24th June 2008

My first entry to schengen:
1st July 2007

180 days:
1st July 2007 - 1st January 2008

Nº of days spent in schengen territory:
85

My simple question is that:
Since my schengen visa is valid till July 2008, after the expiry of my 180 days and my 90 days of stay... do i need to reapply for another visa to get additional 90 days or I can just exit and re enter the schengen after the expiry of my 180 days with the same visa stamped on my passport?

An answer would be greaattttly appreciated.

My plan is to leave 10 days before my 180 days expire and re-enter france with the same visa to have fresh 90 days of stay.

I have a valid visa but on the visa it says 90 Days of Stay. So I am confused.

Thanx

-Mad

It´ll make the question easier -

Which is the correct rule:

you MUST stay out of schengen for 3 months after spending 90 days (3 months from the day you exit schengen territorry)?

OR...

you MUST stay out of schengen only till your 180 days expire and then your 90 days reset?

My Situation is I spent
1 month in July
1 Month in October
Half Month in November
Half Month in December

I leave on 20th od December after exact 90 days

can I come back 2nd of January since my 180 days expire on 1st of January for my 90 days Limit.

Thanx.

Mad

66. Posted by madpurple (Budding Member 5 posts) 8y

^^^

Anyone? The above 2 questions.

67. Posted by madpurple (Budding Member 5 posts) 8y

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68. Posted by five (Budding Member 2 posts) 8y

Hi! You probably have the Schengen one-year short-stay visa (multiple entry). I think generally it allows you a stay of 90 days out of every 180 days on a rolling basis, during that one year. http://www.mediavisa.net/schengen-visa-categories.html
This means that at any moment of time, you can only have been within the Schengen countries for 90 days of the previous 180 days.
The general principle is - Have a look today at how many days you have been within the Schengen countries in the last 180 days. Is it more than 90 days. Then you have overstayed. But, reading the other posts, that doesn't seem to be too much to worry about, unless you are, because of your nationality or look, suspected of being a potential illegal immigrant.

When you return on 2nd January, you will still have been in the Schengen countries around 90 days of the last 180 days, and therefore, if legal when you enter then, you will by the end of January be overstaying. If you do stay another 90 days in France from Jan 2nd, let's say until April, then you would have overstayed (looking back 180 days to beginning of Oct 2007 - you have stayed 60 + 90 days) 60 days.

69. Posted by jenne (First Time Poster 1 posts) 8y

Hi, I have a question that needs to be resolved rather quickly...

I am an American who has been working in Spain for the past three months. I was lucky enough to be hired by a company that agreed to apply for a work visa for me. They told me that I should begin working on my visa waver 90 day stay while we waited for a confirmation of the work visa, and I did so. Unfortunately, my work visa was ultimately denied because my contract was only for 9 months, not one year, as a work visa stipulates.

Now I am back in the US for a holiday, but had previously booked a ticket back to Spain, thinking that I would be going back with my new work visa.

I am aware that I should wait another 90 days before entering the Schengen area since I'd have to go back on a tourist visa waver program again. However, my employers aren't worried about me being checked at the airport and are expecting me back in a week. They say that they'll reapply for the visa and simply offer me a longer contract this time.

I would happily go on back and finish up my contract in Spain, but for one thing. I am planning to apply for a residence/work visa in Italy in the fall. I am worried that going back to the Schengen area for what will effectively be a 6 month overstay will adversely affect my application for a visa in Italy, where I was planning to live long-term.

Does anyone have any information on how overstays in one Schengen country may affect getting or being denied a visa in other Schengen area countries? Or does anyone know any places to get immigration advice specifically for Italy?

thanks

70. Posted by five (Budding Member 2 posts) 8y

(Copy But, reading the other posts, that doesn't seem to be too much to worry about, unless you are, because of your nationality or look, suspected of being a potential illegal immigrant.

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