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1141. Posted by lewism6 (Budding Member 10 posts) 46w

Quoting travelman99

No problems.

Yes you will, I'm not an expert on ROI law, but in the UK a conviction is spent after 11 years, under new legislation some cautions and convictions also become protected, so they can only be accessed by the police themselves.

If you were from the UK, you'd have to get court documents as they would no longer show up when you order a ACPO (criminal record sheet).

Your first step is to order your record from Ireland and see what they have on you - I'm not sure how it differs over there in regards to rehabilitation of offenders.

Hi Travelman,

Have I misunderstood something (highly likely):
on an ACRO certificate, a person with a:
clean record - shows "No trace" or simply just blank? "no trace" implies there was something at a point in time.
Caution, 3 years have passed since - "no live trace"
Caution, 7 years have passed (ie 1 year after the 6 year step down) - will this say "no trace" or "no live trace"

some info here: hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/police-certificate/

Am I foolishly getting my hopes up thinking that at the 6 year point something magical happens for me? :-)

Have I also missed that for "No live trace" a person will need to request court documents to take to the Embassy?

[ Edit: Edited on 10-Nov-2015, at 22:35 by lewism6 ]

1142. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 145 posts) 46w

Sorry, you've misunderstood. Once the caution is stepped down you will get a "no live trace" on ACPO, this means you will need to obtain court papers to show the embassy - in our case, we didn't go to court, so we'd have to contact ACRO to release the protected content to show the embassy.

A caution is stepped down after 5.5 years, this then means it cannot be searched by anyone outside of the police. It's actually worse than it used to be, as they used to just delete cautions. A "No live trace" is just a massive red light to the embassy to say you have a record.

It's BS.

1143. Posted by lewism6 (Budding Member 10 posts) 46w

Thanks Travelman.

damn that's another thing I didn't realise. So i would need to take that with me prior to interview post the5.5 years mark? BS. You're right about that.

1144. Posted by Zephyrjohn (First Time Poster 1 posts) 45w

Hi, just discovered this site...and this thread.
I need some advice. I'm 47 and have previously travelled to various places including goa, Turkey, Greece Spain Malta France etc
I'm now looking to book up and take the wife and 3 teenagers to Florida...... However!
I have 3 conviction's.....:(
1. Drunk and disorderly.... 1987 fined £60
2, Drunk whilst entering a football ground..... 1990 fined £75
3, drink driving.... 1994 banned for 12 months and fined £600

I understand I have to fill out a form (esta) that asks about conviction's.
Do I have no chance of going. I can't be doing a load of running around going to embassy interview's.
Should I give up the idea and just book up for Tenerife again
Many thanks:)

1145. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2422 posts) 45w

Zephyrjohn, your query has been answered over and over and over throughout this thread. Just read the last dozen pages or so.

Bottom line: Under normal circumstances the UK does not share it's criminal database with the US so you can simply forget the convictions ever happened, wipe them from your memory bank and enter the US as if they had never happened.

That said nothing is ever guaranteed, but your chances of having issues while entering as a tourist is statistically irrelevant.

Cheers,
Terry

1146. Posted by Martinfellow (First Time Poster 1 posts) 45w

Hello everyone,

After reading this entire thread some 2 months ago, I just wanted to share a story which involves one of my mates with UK drug convictions.

Last month, myself and 3 friends went on a holiday to Las Vegas for 7 days. Which one of the lads won through a competition. Unfortunately, our friend that was the lucky winner of this holiday, had previous drug convictions from 3 years ago.

Now obviously, at the beginning he didn't even give it a second thought.. his assumption was, "I can't possibly go to the States with my record" and "I won't even attempt it" - Long story short, after much persuasion and trawling through the internet on this subject he decided to risk it.

Ok, so here are his convictions; (he is a UK resident and a UK passport holder)

- Importation of a Class C controlled substance
- Posses with intent to supply Class A & B
- And a minor Fraud charge

He got a 12 month sentence which was suspended for 2 years along with 200 hours community service.

He went down the simple route of an ESTA Visa, (after we all persuaded him that would be the better option) Obviously ticked the 'NO' box to any convictions.

Once we landed in LAX we was greeted at passport control with a ridiculously long queue, with stern voiced customs officers ordering us into the correct lines. After our fingerprints had been scanned we moved up to the desk, it was a few simple questions regarding our stay and what I believe was a subtle joke... "Don't go getting married to any southerners!" followed by, "Welcome to the United States of America sir, enjoy your vacation."

Whether it was my friends lucky day or not, i'm not sure - but I believe if you are calm, act completely normal, and are well mannered. There will not be a problem.

If theres any important information i've missed, that may be of help. Let me know.

All the best,

Martin

1147. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2422 posts) 45w

Thanks for confirming once again that everything we've been saying over and over is true.

Hope you had a gas in Vegas.

Cheers,
Terry

1148. Posted by DaveinMD (Respected Member 198 posts) 45w

Quoting Martinfellow

Hello everyone,

After reading this entire thread some 2 months ago, I just wanted to share a story which involves one of my mates with UK drug convictions.

Last month, myself and 3 friends went on a holiday to Las Vegas for 7 days. Which one of the lads won through a competition. Unfortunately, our friend that was the lucky winner of this holiday, had previous drug convictions from 3 years ago.

Now obviously, at the beginning he didn't even give it a second thought.. his assumption was, "I can't possibly go to the States with my record" and "I won't even attempt it" - Long story short, after much persuasion and trawling through the internet on this subject he decided to risk it.

Ok, so here are his convictions; (he is a UK resident and a UK passport holder)

- Importation of a Class C controlled substance
- Posses with intent to supply Class A & B
- And a minor Fraud charge

He got a 12 month sentence which was suspended for 2 years along with 200 hours community service.

He went down the simple route of an ESTA Visa, (after we all persuaded him that would be the better option) Obviously ticked the 'NO' box to any convictions.

Once we landed in LAX we was greeted at passport control with a ridiculously long queue, with stern voiced customs officers ordering us into the correct lines. After our fingerprints had been scanned we moved up to the desk, it was a few simple questions regarding our stay and what I believe was a subtle joke... "Don't go getting married to any southerners!" followed by, "Welcome to the United States of America sir, enjoy your vacation."

Whether it was my friends lucky day or not, i'm not sure - but I believe if you are calm, act completely normal, and are well mannered. There will not be a problem.

If theres any important information i've missed, that may be of help. Let me know.

All the best,

Martin

While I'm hapoy you and your friends were able to get here I gotta say I'm surprised and a little concerned that it was so easy in this day and age.

1149. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 145 posts) 45w

Why are you concerned? Although clearly a drug dealer in the past, I doubt he's Pablo Escobar - he wouldn't be any more of a threat to the US than an alcoholic.

1150. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2422 posts) 45w

Quoting DaveinMD

While I'm hapoy you and your friends were able to get here I gotta say I'm surprised and a little concerned that it was so easy in this day and age.

You're concerned that someone who has never even been in jail was allowed into the US? Seriously?!

Cheers,
Terry