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1531. Posted by broxyburd (Budding Member 7 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Ramonadoll

What a lovely attitude you have!!!!

Twat!!

1532. Posted by ramonadoll (Inactive 4 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Pretty sure that above comment is from the same user with another account.

Your missing the point Terry you are being rude to multiple people on here. People already may have to deal with stress from potentially rude consulars so why should they need to deal with rudeness as well from a guy on a power trip on an internet forum?

I think people should be able to ask about others experiences without being jumped on for how they ask a question. Even if my question could have been worded better who are you to judge? I am not after your opinion. I asked for other peoples experiences and get some 'expert' criticize me.

If I want proper advise I would ask a lawyer, I was just curious to hear from other people of ALL nationalities how their experience went.

Seeming as I am getting jumped on for expressing an opinion I won't use this forum again.

Goodbye.

[ Edit: Edited on 20-Nov-2016, at 01:30 by ramonadoll ]

1533. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

In Terrys defence he's never told anybody to do anything - he's given the facts, and then used his favourite saying "it's a roll of the dice".

In my opinion you SHOULD be giving as much detail as possible when asking questions such as this. US consultates work differently and to different timescales based on your location - so it's common sense that you should give at least your nationality so someone in your country can give you the right information.

Now once you've had your little moment, please re-issue the question with more detail and you may get some help.

[ Edit: Edited on 20-Nov-2016, at 05:59 by travelman99 ]

1534. Posted by OldPro (Inactive 400 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Over 1500 posts on this thread and still people post, "Can anyone who has had an arrest or conviction and has then applied for a tourist visa, possibly please advise me,"

This has to be the most compelling evidence of the uselessness of forums today. In the 1500+ posts on this thread, the entire answer to 'Travelling to US with a criminal record in the UK' has to have been laid out over and over again. There is a CORRECT answer, it never changes. Yet rather than read through the thread and figure out the answer for themselves, people want to post, 'here is my question, give ME an answer.' They want someone else to do THEIR WORK for them and just supply an answer. They are not interested in figuring it out for themselves by reading to find that answer. They're lazy, they're selfish and they have no compunction about asking other people to spend their time answering them.

This latest example clearly shows how such a person views being told to, 'ask an intelligent question with relevant background info'. It's all someone else's fault and someone else who is being rude or ignorant, etc. etc. These people live in the land of 'ME'. In that land, the entire world revolves around that person and every other person is there only to serve the needs of 'ME'. Here is how to deal with such people. IGNORE them entirely or simply tell them to learn to READ and do their OWN WORK.

At 1500 responses, there has not been any need to add to this thread for a long, long time.

1535. Posted by Sander (Moderator 5087 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Quoting OldPro

Over 1500 posts on this thread and still people post, "Can anyone who has had an arrest or conviction and has then applied for a tourist visa, possibly please advise me,"

This has to be the most compelling evidence of the uselessness of forums today.

Only if you believe the sole purpose of a forum is provide emotionless factual information. However, I'd say that the entire point of a forum is the conversation! Most people who've posted in this thread (or any of a number of other threads on this forum) just want some reassurance and the feeling that they're being listened to, even if it's by an anonymous stranger. Shared personal experiences addressed directly to them are a massive bonus to that. And luckily there's plenty of people who are willing to provide these things.

You personally might not get value out of this thread, but many, many others do - as evidenced by its length. :) (And yeah, every so often some people just don't manage to strike the right tone, and don't get what they were looking for, but I'd say those have been the exceptions here, not the rule; this in itself means that the regular contributors to the thread deserve massive kudos.)

[ Edit: Edited on 20-Nov-2016, at 10:12 by Sander ]

1536. Posted by CheersT (Travel Guru 2574 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

I pretty much agree with OldPro.

If I can be immodest for a moment I applied decades of direct experience handling thousands of Work Permits/Visas (which are WAY more tricky/complicated than Tourist Visas) to the discussion on this thread and it's amazing how many attacks and PMs I've received from entitled little crybabies like this last example, ramonadoll.

I stopped contributing to this thread for a long time and the very excellent travelman99 took over with well researched, accurate answers.

It was a mistake for me to enter back into the fray and be forced to listen to immature, illogical and unappreciative idiots like this most recent shitstain of a human being.

Cheers,
Terry

1537. Posted by Kopidol84 (Budding Member 3 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Just want to put people's minds at ease, as long as you're not a drug dealer or have serious charges, you'll be fine. I went in august and passed straight through security without a problem (well, apart from the fact that they took my peperamis off of me!) and it was an even smoother glide through on the way back. I was shitting myself for weeks and months before my trip and it was all for nothing. Trust what the likes of what terry says etc. You'll be fine, so stop panicking.

1538. Posted by mfell (Budding Member 2 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Hi folks,

Came here around a year ago and got advise from yourself Terry, amongst others, which I took on board and have travelled since to the likes of New Zealand and Australia in particular, with no problems. I have now, a different situation on my hands for which I'd like some general advise and views from anyone that might have useful info or is in a similar situation.

Just as a re-cap, I was born in England and I'm an English resident with a British passport. I have a criminal record from 3 years ago for a drugs conviction - Intent to Supply Class B, and C. I received a 1 year sentence which was suspended for 2 years. (no time spent in custody) and community service.

From travelling, I have met an American girl. Long story short, it is now a situation where I may want to consider not just a holiday to the States but the possibility of moving there. Obviously, to me, the idea of it is a scary thought that its very likely this won't be do-able! So my questions are as follows...

1. Will it jeopordise my chances (if any) of gaining residency, if I do enter on a holiday visa say within the next few months and then a few years down the line I apply for residency and they see that I did enter previously and lied upon entry (not declaring my record)

2. Secondly, and now the main one. Chances of me gaining residency? I have a pretty good job in finance which allows me to travel the world. So I would have the work side covered, if that is of any leeway? I have found out my conviction in simpler terms becomes downgraded some-what and will be not completely off records but somewhat spent after 6 years. So this would be 2019.

3. Something else that I was wondering about is checks. Applying for residency there is obvious criteria to meet. Do they themselves conduct their own checks via UK agencies against an individuals past and search records? Or is this done by asking me to supply a Police Certificate? Or both?

And finally, would marriage and children be more problematic also? This would potentially be State-side.

Thanks in advance for any help and advice guys, I realise this is quite a big and a wider question which i'll probably need to seek legal advice for, but thought it would be good to get some different views and to see if anyone has been, or knows of anyone that has been in the situation before.

Thanks, Martin

1539. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Hi Martin

Thanks for the detail in your question, it’s refreshing to see someone take the time to spell out what they need - happy to offer advice on this, but this is just that, advice, I am not a lawyer.

1. Yes absolutely, lying on the ESTA is a federal offence with hefty fines, a possible lifetime ban from the states, and immediate removal from the country if found out. Moving to the states requires you to submit an ACRO, which would highlight your record. They can easily match this to ESTA requests and find out that you’d entered the country illegally.

2. Slim, but not impossible That old corrupt fool Richard Nixon put drug crimes on par with violent assault, rape and even murder. Millions of people are rotting in American prisons due to low level drug possession or supply. Committing a crime outside of the US would require a federal agent to firstly compare this to the laws in the US, to determine its seriousness. Once this is done, they will look at your family ties to the America, job, rehabilitation period (5 years minimum, 15 years great) and you as a character. They will use this information to determine if they will offer a Waiver. But ultimately at the moment you are Inadmissable, and entering the states via an ESTA would only make it worse.

3. You might need to check with an immigration Lawyer here, or the information is readily online. But if you reference point 2, this may help, Ultimately you will need to provide a lot of information such a UK police report, financial information to see if you can support yourself, family information and reasons for entering.

4. If you end up marrying your girlfriend and having children, then this becomes more complex. But there is a hardship clause that you may want to look into that can help.

As i said i’m not a Lawyer, but I have a police caution for attempt to possess a controlled substance (i admitted to a policeman I tried to buy drugs... silly) so I’ve spent countless hours researching, stressing, and on depression meds trying to work out if I’ve fucked my life out... woe is me and all that.

Hope this helps in some way.

1540. Posted by tags89 (Budding Member 2 posts) 38w Star this if you like it!

Hi Everyone,

I have read lots of the stories, and its good to hear some of the successes!

I have a caution for a class b (amphetamine) possession 15 months ago. I am planning on going to america with work in Jan/Feb, and I am about to start the visa process.

I understand that I will need a ineligibility waiver for this. My hope is that I will be able to get a waiver that then lasts for quite a long time so that I an go back more than once, and I have some questions.

1) Can you apply for a 5 or 10 year visa as part of the waiver process? or do the embassy issue you with a length of visa they see as acceptable?
2) is the turnaround very quick on the waivers? I have heard some stories about it taking 6 months...
3) If I get a work visa like b-1 in lieu of h1b or the L-1 visa will I be able to go on holiday afterwards on the same visa if say my visa was for 10 years, and I wanted to go on holiday next year, or would I need another visa?

Thanks,