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1581. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Sorry melody this is the wrong forum - I can't advise on Japanese immigration law.

1582. Posted by m3lody (Inactive 2 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

it's ok! thanks travelman99! i was hoping someone here may know something.. i couldn't find a similar thread on the asia forum.. ^^;
anyway, since i'm here already, what about for travel to the US? will his criminal history prevent him from entering? thanks!

[ Edit: Edited on 21-Feb-2017, at 10:31 by m3lody ]

1583. Posted by Gwenna (Budding Member 13 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Hi Everybody.
This is a very busy and long forum. I just want to share our recent experience with you all.
Our last visit to USA was twenty odd years ago when you just filled in a piece of paper en route on the flight. We now have grandchildren and are relatively comfortable and thought it would be a great idea to take them and my daughter and her husband for a holiday before we retire next year. So on impulse I booked three weeks flying Virgin Premier all singing and all dancing, and was very excited.
THEN I was told about visa's and all it entails! Moral Turpitide and all its many meanings is a complete minefield.
The one person who could not lie and answer NO in all honesty the "have you been arrested" on the ESTA's decided that he would do the right thing and apply for a visa at the embassy. We were pretty sure it was a CIMT, and I trawled the Internet and all it said was to apply at the Embassy, I couldn't see anywhere that you would be refused.
So his crime was 45 years ago (yes 45!!!) a 6 month suspended sentence and a fine. HE WAS 18 and with two other youths stole money from another youth, so was convicted of Robbery. Nothing since - not even a parking ticket, worked for the same company for 36 years and almost a pensioner.
HIS VISA WAS REFUSED POINT BLANK!!! Under the crime of MT.
In hindsight would he have lied on the ESTA??? For him personally? No he wouldn't because he is too honest and would of hated being refused entry.
So being the kind loving husband, father and grandfather that he is has now insisted we go ahead with the holiday without him.
If only I knew about this all beforehand I wouldn't have booked the holiday.
Thy have recommended a waiver of ineligibility and indicated it will be accepted due to the amount of years passed since it happened but will not be received in time for the holiday.
I would have liked to think that the Embassy would give these people who do the interviews a certain amount of power to determine themselves who is/is not a threat.

1584. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Hi Gwenna

This is unfortunate but absolutely in line with US rehabilitation law - I.e youre never rehabilitated unless pardoned.

The good news is he will likely get a 5 - 10 year visa, but this may also take 4 - 8 months to be received.

We are all in agreement that it's rediculous - but do take solace in your husband having the moral high ground here. He committed a crime a long time ago, but did the right thing and was honest with the good old "Land of the Free"

Our learnings here is that there a hundreds of nicer places to go in the world right now than America. But whilst millions of tourist choose to spend their money in America, or bow down to their grotty kids who want to go the Disney land, they have no reason to change their ways.

1585. Posted by Gwenna (Budding Member 13 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for that travelman99.
All we wanted was for the Grandchildren to have a great holiday as we know it could be many years before their parents could afford to take them.
I was all up for cancelling my ticket with his, but as I said he's so unselfish he absolutely insists I go enjoy it with them. I am going, but with a very heavy heart. We were lucky enough that we got a 95% refund on his ticket which he has given to the children to spend how they like. All I have to do now is teach him how to use SKYPE!!!!!! Also you are absolutely right about your other points regarding "our friends over the pond", but do take a little offence over the grotty kids bit, as this was our gift to them, they didn't ask for it.
But I just wanted people to understand the importance of getting your ESTA or Visa BEFORE you book.

1586. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

I apologise, I didn’t mean offence - its just most of the issues on this forum are Disney related, so I’ve just become bitter and twisted tis’ all.

Before you went ahead and cancelled his ticket, did you not ask the embassy to give you a rough time frame on the Visa? If you’re going next year you would have most likely got it in time.

Kind regards

[ Edit: Edited on 21-Feb-2017, at 14:49 by travelman99 ]

1587. Posted by Gwenna (Budding Member 13 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Yes, at least six months, we go middle of May - if for some miracle it does come through we have decided to try to get him on a flight within a few days of our arrival and as we have a villa this shouldn't cause any problems.
Time will tell my friend.

1588. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Well best of luck - hopefully common sense prevails... But this is the US we’re talking about.

1589. Posted by travelman99 (Full Member 167 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

m3lody - it really depends on your nationality. UK citizens can bypass the VISA process by using an ESTA. I’m not sure if this is the same in Singapore.

In regards to Japan, if it’s just a piece of paper on a plane, ignore it. They locked up McCartney for a while for brining weed in, I think he was banned until recently...

My advice is to start a new thread, someone with more knowledge of Japan will answer you.

Cheers

1590. Posted by Gwenna (Budding Member 13 posts) 25w Star this if you like it!

Thanks for that.
Although Considering what the visa application cost, together with the Police Certificate and travel costs to London (fortunately not far for us) I can't help but think that the money grabbing beaurocrats have missed a trick here by not offering "a fast track service" for the waiver $$$$$$$. Kerching!!!!